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progesterone cream/gel not as good as pills?

Discussion in 'Hormones' started by farshad, Nov 18, 2017.

  1. farshad

    farshad

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    Im gonna start taking vitex soon apparantly it can increase progesterone and its taken orally.. I wanna how much of a difference there is.. between that and cream..


    vitex can help your body make its own progesterone.. it tells your brain to make its own if you are deficient ,well thats the basics.. anyway.

    What im curious is I shouldnt feel a difference when I start taking vitex ... you would think right.. since im already taking 40mg progesterone cream daily. But who knows.. maybe I will feel it better when things are taken orally instead of cream.
     
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    @farshad, how is it going? I can't do anything with two tests coming up, hopefully the last of December I can start this up again. I'm your eye in the sky, lol (following this post). Hope you're still doing well and are you trying the vitex yet?
     
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    What progesterone dose did you take orally? If it is a lot higher than your transdermal cream dose, then you cannot really compare.

    Interesting though that oral progesterone is better than transdermal for creating allopregnanolone. It confirms that here:


    Instead of using progesterone, you can also take 5α-dihydroprogesterone (5α-DHP), which is a direct precursor to allopregnanolone. 5α-DHP can be bought here, as a "research chemical".

    The creation of allopregnanolone from progesterone following this pathway:

    Progesterone ---(5AR)---➤ 5α-dihydroprogesterone ---(3α-HSD)---➤ allopregnanolone

    5AR is the enzyme 5-alpha-reductase.

    There is some interesting info on allopregnanolone here.

    This article says:
    And a pharmacuetical comapny is working on a synthetic and more powerful version of allopregnanolone called ganaxolone.



    I don't think a feeling of wrist strength will come from increased bone strength, and in any case, there is no way your bone strength is going to increase in just a matter of days. Likewise for teeth.
     
  4. farshad

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    my vitex arrived today took my first dosage cant say I feel much yet.. when I first too progesterone it took like 1-2 days to see something so im thinking maybe its the same.
    So im taking progesterone cream + vitex together.

    One thing I noticed is vitex has changed my body odour or whatever you call it in english the way my body and sweat smells. My armpit smell better... too much information?
     
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    https://www.longnaturalhealth.com/Dr-Peats-Progest-E-Complex-34-ml
    One day I decided to just swallow a lot of the progesterone and it worked very well.
    I was awake for 3 days. Im assuming it kick started my metabolism and stuff. Which the progesterone cream havent done any of that. So im thinking cream is not as good as people say. I think not only does cream progesterone not affect allpregnanolone very well but also many other things too. When I took low dose 20mg orally of Peats progesterone the effect was way better than cream . I took the low dosage for probably a week but then decided to just empty the bottle and I probably swallowed like 70mg just a guess thats when the progesterone really worked.

    I would buy the 5α-DHP but I want the full benefit of progesterone, not just the GABA aspect. If you know of any progesterone that can be taken orally let me know . Im looking for progesterone that can be taken orally not synthetic progesterone . I might just buy bulk Ray peats progesterone and swallow in high dosages if it comes to it.

    Yes the bone in my wrists were harder in just a matter of days . I have no reason to make this up. my condition is also very bad unlike the rest thats why I saw benefit quicker. teeth also stronger. They are not 100% healed but they have definitely improved . Im 2 weeks in on progesterone cream . Im hoping I see some more improvements soon but I doubt it. All my improvements came in the first week -or the first few days.
    @Hip

    (edit) I just tried a very high dosage of cream probably like 200mg and I still cant feel the gaba effect..... suspicious of cream...
     
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  6. farshad

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    hmmm dr peats Progesterone seems like an good option for progesterone orally.
    it contains 2800mg of progesterone for 30 bucks. its also micronized for higher absorption.

    So if I take like 100mg daily it will last me more than 25 days... not bad actually.

    Anyone know how much progesterone I would get if I take like 100mg orally?


    Also unrelated the progesterone cream I have been applying on my wrist has made the nerves or whatever you call them inside my wrists very very hard..
     
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    Hi @farshad , haven't been back on here, lots of health bs. I'm still following though. Waiting for results right now...can't seem to concentrate on much else. Glad you're figuring some things out.
     
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