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Notorious lying UK benefit assessors for the DWP caught on tape

Discussion in 'Advocacy Projects' started by Countrygirl, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl Senior Member

    Open the link for the rest of the article.
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  2. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

    I'd like to place five pounds on the "bad apple" defence please.
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  3. Sean

    Sean Senior Member

    I wish I could say I am surprised.

    No way this is an isolated or incidental case. This is the inevitable and predictable (and predicted) outcome of the assessment process implemented by the government, in particular the requirement for the assessment staff to meet arbitrary quotas.

    It is set up entirely and deliberately so the government can try to avoid responsibility for the resulting human carnage wreaked by the government's policies.

    The nurse has to take her share of the blame. But the real villains are the government for the demands they place on the assessment staff and the punishments for them if they don't meet the arbitrary quotas.

    The whole things stinks. :mad:
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  4. Skippa

    Skippa Anti-BS

    Can comfirm my ESA assessor, a nurse by trade, blatantly ignored anything I said that didn't fit her narrative.

    Things that were rather important that I mentioned AND wrote on my form were simply ignored, no rhyme or reason, just not taken into consideration.

    She also stepped above and beyond her remit several times, one of which went something like:

    Her: and are you on any medication for this particular condition?
    Me: yes these (pointed to a box of pills I had on the table)
    Her: No they are not for condition xyz they are for something else.
    Me: No, the doctor prescribed these for wh-
    Her: No, they're not, I know exactly what these are for a doctor wouldn't prescibe them for xyz
    (A nurse denying my GP grrr)
    Me: oh, ok then
    My GF: but-
    Her: can I just move on I haven't got long because we're behind today.

    The entire mental section didn't get filled in or mentioned at all, even though I talked (or tried to) about it and had several pages about it with my form.

    Total shambles, all obviously aimed at failing me no matter what. So blatantly obvious.

    She also claimed to be an expert on ME/CFS and lectured me about preferred terms etc.
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  5. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.

    Toronto, Canada
    Good for her.

    Everyone living with ME should be recording encounters with health workers. Unless and until the worker has proven they will not harm them physically, psychologically and/or financially.

    I believe in some states in the US, police officers wear cameras and this has dramatically decreased police violence against the public.

    In both contexts, health care workers and police officers, have a huge amount of power to affect the future on another's life.
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  6. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member

    So she didn't have time to let you answer her questions because she was running behind yet she had plenty of time to lecture you which is beyond her remit.

    Also they claim that these assessments are specifically to assess how your life is impaired rather than the diagnosis. So again lecturing you in general about ME is beyond the remit of the assessment.

    And then you're expected to believe there is no agenda.
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  7. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member

    You are so right and this is exactly why claimants are warned of dire consequences of secretly recording your assessment. If they catch you the assessment may be terminated - I think they can impose sanctions as well (maybe someone who has up to date info could confirm?).
  8. John Mac

    John Mac Senior Member

    Liverpool UK
    That is almost a word for word copy of what was said at my PIP assessment 2 weeks ago.
    I'm on 30mg of Amitriptiline to help me sleep (can't without them) and was baffled when she insisted I was taking them for something else. It left me baffled. But now it looks as though they are instructed to say this.
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  9. Snowdrop

    Snowdrop Rebel without a biscuit

    And I wouldn't consider any potential illegality a reason to not record. Any recordings would not be considered legal evidence in most countries I expect (I could be wrong) but it doesn't matter. The players in gov't and their various bureaucratic arms will not want to look like they are bad people training people to act badly and harming others in the process. Handing over recordings to media or just posting them is quite useful toward exposing this horrible situation.
  10. Wonko

    Wonko Senior Member

    The other side.
    It's not illegal to record without consent.
    What stopped me was that, if caught, the assessment is terminated and your claim is returned to the DWP for non compliance, which pretty much always results in a claim being closed and hence no benefits being awarded.

    Of course given what happened where my claim was closed anyway due to the report of a dodgy assessor......never again will I not record.
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  11. bombsh3ll

    bombsh3ll Senior Member

    I would definitely find some way of recording any such assessment, and also have a witness present if possible.
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