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More Toxic Cyanobacteria Blooms Being Reported in the U.S. - Any Association to Other Illnesses?

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Wally, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Wally

    Wally Senior Member

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    Here is another news report about toxic cyanobacteria blooms. This report is from Florida. https://weather.com/amp/science/env...da-algae-blooms-red-tide-health-wildlife.html

    These type of reports are popping up in the news all over the U.S. (west coast, east coast, midwest etc...). Since the occurrence of toxic cyanobacteria blooms corresponds to a number of the historical cluster outbreaks of M.E., it would seem like this would be an interesting piece of information for researchers to explore to see if there is an increase in clinicians seeing patients with symptoms that might fall within the criteria for a M.E. diagnosis and/or other neuro immune illnesses.

    Since M.E. has been seen in both cluster outbreaks and in what appears to be sporadic cases, it would seem that the cluster outbreaks might hold some clues that might be overlooked in the sporadic cases. Could cyanobacteria blooms hold a key to the added trigger that propels this illness to sicken a large group of people at once? Cyanobacteria would not be the root cause of the illness, but perhaps this added trigger for an immune compromised person could provide insight for pieces of the puzzle to explain cluster outbreaks.

    Speaking of cluster outbreaks of M.E. or C.F.S. - do they no longer happen or are they no longer reported to the public because government health agencies do not believe these illness occur in cluster outbreaks? Perhaps some questions need to be asked of our government officials to understand what current reporting systems are in place should clinicians want to report a number of patients in their practice with symptoms which appear to have similarities to what was reported years ago in communities like Incline Village, Lyndonville, Charlottesville, Punta Gorda, Los Angeles, San Francisco etc...
     
  2. Wally

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    For additional reading about how ALS and M.E. might hypothetically have a connection to toxic Cyanobacteria, please take a look at the paper linked in the thread identified below and the thread linked below titled “ME Is Not Mould Intolerance”.
    See, Reply No. 159 on page 8 at https://forums.phoenixrising.me/ind...s-on-cause-of-me-cfs.60551/page-8#post-991851
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    Reply No. 114 on page 6 at https://forums.phoenixrising.me/ind...ntolerance-is-not-me.51792/page-6#post-856637

    Here is another study that you might find interesting about ALS and cyanobacteria that involves tracking a cluster incidence of this illness in New Hampshire.

    https://www.researchgate.net/public..._possible_role_for_toxic_cyanobacteria_blooms

    This hypothesis will still need a lot more studies to be conducted to figure out if it these breadcrumbs will lead to real clues about these neuro immune illnesses. But it is my hope that even though the CDC has dropped the ball in thoroughly investigating a possible epigenetic/environmental link to these illnesses others might see the value in taking a closer look down this trail.
     
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  3. mariovitali

    mariovitali Senior Member

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    Let's not forget the Liver :

     
  4. Wally

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    @mariovitali - please feel free to link to any posts, threads or other information that might provide additional insight into how cyanobacteria toxicity could possibly play a role in M.E.
     
  5. mariovitali

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    This is probably not good for Hepatocytes / Liver :

     
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    For those (like me) who may be unfamiliar with the term “hepatocyte” (as referred to in the study mentioned by @mariovitali in the prior post), here is the “cliff note” version of the definition of a hepatocyte and what function it performs in the human body.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMHT0023058/
     
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    @mariovitali - I found this study re non-alcoholic liver disease and cyanobacteria toxic blooms that you (and others) might be interested in reviewing.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4428243/ -
     
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  8. Gemini

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    @Wally, very good point.

    Perhaps CDC should collect data on when, where, and under what circumstances patients' triggering infection occurred if Dr. Unger hasn't done so already, then analyze it for outbreaks and report them.

    With Common Data Elements they could use their own 7-site study for patient data right now it would seem.
     
  9. Chugi

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    The question is more is there something we can do against cyanobacteria? I guess there people from the lake tahoe time here
     
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    The dual-factor theory for ME/CFS, where this illnesses gets triggered by a combination of biotoxin exposure (cyanobacteria or mold) plus a viral infection, was proposed by Erik Johnson, whose was one of the ME/CFS patients of the Lake Tahoe outbreak.
     
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