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Maffetone, Mitochondria; CFS and Overtraining Syndrome (OTS)

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HowToEscape?

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SmokinJoeFraz93 said:
Wow! How relevant is this article for myself. My symptoms started when I started exercising intensely 5 days a week. Hard boxing sessions with HIIT training and weights. The weight was dropping off me and I wasn’t eating enough.

The silly thing is, I was declining month by month, but I continued to push through it until I could no longer lift my arms up during a session, and my lungs felt like they had no oxygen. I did this solidly for around one year.

I had to stop everything (work included), and now I’m 23 years old and practically House bound.

And not mention, I discovered an eating disorder during this time, so now I’m getting treated for that. What a shit 3 years!!
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And they say we are just lazy, depressed and hate exercise. Pity you couldn’t be your former boxing self for an hour and discuss that point with them.
 
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jpcv said:
My symptoms started when I was tá the peak of my training : swimming,surfing and weights
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Cases like yours need more exposure. At the official government levels, you don’t exist. Of course in England I suppose they’ll treat your case as a personality disorder; you were the “ambitious climbing yuppie type.”

I was in the gym constantly but I never did get the surfing part.
 
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SmokinJoeFraz93

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HowToEscape? said:
And they say we are just lazy, depressed and hate exercise. Pity you couldn’t be your former boxing self for an hour and discuss that point with them.
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Exactly!! Up at 5.30am, 3 mile run. Work all day doing heavy lifting. Training at 5pm for a 2 and a half hour session. Home. Sleep and repeat 5 days a week.

There’s a lot of things that I am. Lazy is one thing I am not!
 
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It's possible that constant muscle damage--and thus t-cell activation--triggers ME/CFS the same way that viral infections do. It probably doesn't matter how the immune system gets activated: some cytokine triggers dysfunction that has positive feedback.
 
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