Martial
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Hey everyone! Been a while since I posted here.. I had been doing some more digging into my own illness that has been going on and pinned down some interesting things. First that was interesting was that it all started going down hill once I got treated with antibiotics for a sinus infection, for the first 10 days of Ceftin, and the following ten days with Amoxy I grew increasingly more sick... I at then time went searching for some of the things that could have been causing this.. I didn't feel malaise in any way, or had post exercise fatigue, the amount I moved each day and stress did not seem to correlate to having crashes.. It was always when I added antibiotic type treatments like antibiotics, or more recently herbal antibiotics like Grape Fruit Seed Extract, and Prima Una De Gato.. The last one which really messed me up with all kinds of bone, joint pain, and my nervous system going haywire with more symptoms then I could think to list.. I had been bitten by several ticks in my life visiting my now ex GF in Pennsylvania, living as a young kid in New Jersey, and several different times in California.. I do not know which time could have caused Lyme disease but after the severe herxing from treatment I was convinced this was the issue.. I scheduled an appt with an infectious disease specialist that is an expert on Lyme In California for an official DX from IgeneX Lab testing, and to get a doctor's assistance on treatment..
The problem however was that this wasn't the only thing going on.. Previously to the sinus issues which warranted the antibiotics I was hugely dissociated and emotionally blunted, from a previous emotional challenge/trauma... During this period I would feel completely numb but still happy and doing things.. though I started getting weird neurological issues that produced a lot of worry in myself... Certain periods of the day or randomly I would be filled with immense rage, sadness, fear, or many other feelings and sensations.. The feelings would come very hard and very quick and overwhelm me, however I had no way to process them because I was so de personalized.. It ended up playing out and trying to resolve conflict using my nervous system instead.. I woke up some days and found I couldn't walk, having severe issues with Gait, or Balance, Random blurring of my vision, severe muscle cramps, twitches, or deep neuropathic pains, the fatigue and sleep issues being the worst, as well as parkinson like stiffness where my whole body would contract and grow incredibly stiff to movement.
I urgently went to the ER and had some testing done, all showing normal blood work and had some MRI work done on several different occasions.. All results came back normal and I have absolutely no family history of auto immune issues.. The clean MRI results also made MS extremely unlikely... I then wondered what the hell was going on.. What could be causing all of this? I then looked into b12 deficiency and was convinced it was the source of my troubles... What I can say for sure is through the periods previously in my life I definitely could have slowly depleted my b 12 levels, a combination of certain medications and stress from severe anxiety issues.. I got a nutrient test scheduled and started on some b12 shots to help restore my normal levels of functioning and heal my nerves..
I noticed though feeling a bit better it did not fully explain all of what was going on, and I still had some issues.. I was routinely seeing a therapist to help with the dissociation and mentioned some of what was going on, he mentioned Conversion disorder and I finally found an explanation for so much..
My mind was not able to process a lot of emotions and something had to get it out of the system so my nervous system ended up in charge of this process.. Also it is extremely common to have Conversion disorder without a major psychological stressor or trauma component, it only means that your nervous system is acting out psychological distress. This is also extremely common with chronic health disease like Lyme, MS, and even CFS.. It can produce a very long list of symptoms as well and is not something that means you are making it up, or that it is all in your head.. Simply that the mind and body connection run very deep and that sometimes the body will act out these symptoms in response to emotional dsyregulation, or in the case illness effecting the nervous system emotions and stress can produce symptoms to be produced in the nerves..
For now I am being treated for the Lyme disease and seeking an official Dx, as well as treating the emotional disconnect and hoping and praying to get my mental and physical health back very soon... I am also not saying it is 100% for sure that I have Lyme without a confirmed medical result though feels more then 90% likely based on herxing reactions alone.. In my own case it seems the combination of possible lyme disease and emotional dysregulation caused very severe issues with Conversion disorder, previously called Hysteria though these are just labels to describe symptoms..
I had done some previous exploring on this site and made several different postings, as well as started methylation treatment with Freddd who I must thank again so much for all the help! Whether or not I was not having methylation issues I felt SO, SO, much better after starting a methylation therapy, definitely helps if I do have Lyme for sure!
I had found other threads as well and postings from others that sent out red flags of Conversion Disorder, which again is simply the nervous system producing physical symptoms of stress.. Very curable and I always try not to stick too much emphasis on labels. It is not as widely recognized today as in historic cases but very much as common as ever.. It can produce things as intense as total body paralysis, temporary blindness, deafness, inability to speak, and siezures.. I was posting this thread in hopes that others would be helped and if it does apply to them even if they don't know it, to seek treatment and ease some of the burden in symptoms that seem to come along with CFS, and possibly help in recovery or curing some people as I am sure it can cause symptoms of entire whole body illness as well, this doesn't mean anything is wrong with someone or that its all in the head again I cannot emphasis that more then enough.. It is just that our mind and body are very deeply connected and more commonly then some realize stress can become very, very physical in all levels of the physiology of the human anatomy!
Hope this finds everyone well and is beneficial to others on here!
Much Love!
Todd
The problem however was that this wasn't the only thing going on.. Previously to the sinus issues which warranted the antibiotics I was hugely dissociated and emotionally blunted, from a previous emotional challenge/trauma... During this period I would feel completely numb but still happy and doing things.. though I started getting weird neurological issues that produced a lot of worry in myself... Certain periods of the day or randomly I would be filled with immense rage, sadness, fear, or many other feelings and sensations.. The feelings would come very hard and very quick and overwhelm me, however I had no way to process them because I was so de personalized.. It ended up playing out and trying to resolve conflict using my nervous system instead.. I woke up some days and found I couldn't walk, having severe issues with Gait, or Balance, Random blurring of my vision, severe muscle cramps, twitches, or deep neuropathic pains, the fatigue and sleep issues being the worst, as well as parkinson like stiffness where my whole body would contract and grow incredibly stiff to movement.
I urgently went to the ER and had some testing done, all showing normal blood work and had some MRI work done on several different occasions.. All results came back normal and I have absolutely no family history of auto immune issues.. The clean MRI results also made MS extremely unlikely... I then wondered what the hell was going on.. What could be causing all of this? I then looked into b12 deficiency and was convinced it was the source of my troubles... What I can say for sure is through the periods previously in my life I definitely could have slowly depleted my b 12 levels, a combination of certain medications and stress from severe anxiety issues.. I got a nutrient test scheduled and started on some b12 shots to help restore my normal levels of functioning and heal my nerves..
I noticed though feeling a bit better it did not fully explain all of what was going on, and I still had some issues.. I was routinely seeing a therapist to help with the dissociation and mentioned some of what was going on, he mentioned Conversion disorder and I finally found an explanation for so much..
My mind was not able to process a lot of emotions and something had to get it out of the system so my nervous system ended up in charge of this process.. Also it is extremely common to have Conversion disorder without a major psychological stressor or trauma component, it only means that your nervous system is acting out psychological distress. This is also extremely common with chronic health disease like Lyme, MS, and even CFS.. It can produce a very long list of symptoms as well and is not something that means you are making it up, or that it is all in your head.. Simply that the mind and body connection run very deep and that sometimes the body will act out these symptoms in response to emotional dsyregulation, or in the case illness effecting the nervous system emotions and stress can produce symptoms to be produced in the nerves..
For now I am being treated for the Lyme disease and seeking an official Dx, as well as treating the emotional disconnect and hoping and praying to get my mental and physical health back very soon... I am also not saying it is 100% for sure that I have Lyme without a confirmed medical result though feels more then 90% likely based on herxing reactions alone.. In my own case it seems the combination of possible lyme disease and emotional dysregulation caused very severe issues with Conversion disorder, previously called Hysteria though these are just labels to describe symptoms..
I had done some previous exploring on this site and made several different postings, as well as started methylation treatment with Freddd who I must thank again so much for all the help! Whether or not I was not having methylation issues I felt SO, SO, much better after starting a methylation therapy, definitely helps if I do have Lyme for sure!
I had found other threads as well and postings from others that sent out red flags of Conversion Disorder, which again is simply the nervous system producing physical symptoms of stress.. Very curable and I always try not to stick too much emphasis on labels. It is not as widely recognized today as in historic cases but very much as common as ever.. It can produce things as intense as total body paralysis, temporary blindness, deafness, inability to speak, and siezures.. I was posting this thread in hopes that others would be helped and if it does apply to them even if they don't know it, to seek treatment and ease some of the burden in symptoms that seem to come along with CFS, and possibly help in recovery or curing some people as I am sure it can cause symptoms of entire whole body illness as well, this doesn't mean anything is wrong with someone or that its all in the head again I cannot emphasis that more then enough.. It is just that our mind and body are very deeply connected and more commonly then some realize stress can become very, very physical in all levels of the physiology of the human anatomy!
Hope this finds everyone well and is beneficial to others on here!
Much Love!
Todd