Low molybdenum and zinc

[Lillymom]

I've just got my daughter's hair test (she is 4 years autistic) and it show low molybdenum and zinc and high lead and aluminium toxicity. Until my appointment with the NP , I tried to give her some grappe vinegar to deal with the aluminium toxicity but she responds very badly: more stimming and sleep disturbance. So I just stop the vinegar. I tried to figure out what's going on but I am not very familiar with all pathways: should I adopt a low sulfur diet? Should I work on the Methylation( ı've just discovered this word and I don't have a clear image about it) by supplementing with Bcomplex if yes what brand do you advise? Or should I began with balancing minerals especially molybdenum and zinc? I began to supplement with those minerals and then stopped to fear to make more harm than good? Any advice will be welcome.

 

[PeterPositive]

I am sorry if this is not the advice you're looking for but I would not experiment with any of that (minerals, methylation etc...) on a 4 years old.

I would find a good doctor that specializes in autism and work with him.

p.s. = also keep in mind that a mineral deficiency in a hair test is not indicative of a real deficiency. Hair tests are not standardized and there exist many different methodologies, none of which is ultimately backed by rigorous science. I am not saying that hair tests are worthless but they are not enough.

Good luck

 

[taniaaust1]

there is a product my specialist put me on as i had low molybdenum (actually almost nil showing on a hair test), the supplement is called molyzinc (as its got zinc in it too). maybe it is worth trying short term in an extremely low amount, i'd be wary with doing anything long term in one this young but maybe you will see an improvement fast.

having my molybdenum supplemented, it only took 3-4 days before i got positive benefits from it.. i went from being unable to do maths at all in my head for years, to suddenly my brain able to do this hence i think it may be worth trialing a child showing a deficiency on a very low dose even if for only a couple of weeks. (for any long term supplementation of children, id be very wary.. go real slow/low and hair test again to make sure nothing is being overdone or better still find a professional to work with you with this).

my old dr told me that hair tests can be reliable as far as showing up deficiences go (but i guess that would depend on the lab doing the testing, the one i was going throu was a good one) . its other things that hair tests can be unreliable with them eg a hair test may show up too much of something which may be untrue..

If it was me, id trial supplementing with this rather then leave the child with a probable deficiency and molybdenum is an important essential trace mineral. and if you supplement dont do it forever, always keep checking things. (I have autism too.. aspergers, i dont know whether molybdenum deficiency showing on hair tests is more common in us or not but i ended up working out i had this deficiency due to a common gene mutation i have which came up on dna testing)

 

[Little Bluestem]

Low zinc and high lead could be anemia of chronic disease. You might want to read up on that.

 

[Lillymom]

Peter, Tania and little Bluestem thank you for your worthy replies. I am learning a lot from your posts. Thank you very much.

 

[Lillymom]

there is a product my specialist put me on as i had low molybdenum (actually almost nil showing on a hair test), the supplement is called molyzinc (as its got zinc in it too). maybe it is worth trying short term in an extremely low amount, i'd be wary with doing anything long term in one this young but maybe you will see an improvement fast.

having my molybdenum supplemented, it only took 3-4 days before i got positive benefits from it.. i went from being unable to do maths at all in my head for years, to suddenly my brain able to do this hence i think it may be worth trialing a child showing a deficiency on a very low dose even if for only a couple of weeks. (for any long term supplementation of children, id be very wary.. go real slow/low and hair test again to make sure nothing is being overdone or better still find a professional to work with you with this).

my old dr told me that hair tests can be reliable as far as showing up deficiences go (but i guess that would depend on the lab doing the testing, the one i was going throu was a good one) . its other things that hair tests can be unreliable with them eg a hair test may show up too much of something which may be untrue..

If it was me, id trial supplementing with this rather then leave the child with a probable deficiency and molybdenum is an important essential trace mineral. and if you supplement dont do it forever, always keep checking things. (I have autism too.. aspergers, i dont know whether molybdenum deficiency showing on hair tests is more common in us or not but i ended up working out i had this deficiency due to a common gene mutation i have which came up on dna testing)

Thank you Tania for your helpful answer. I found a practioner who is helping me now. Wish you all the best

 

[CCC]

my old dr told me that hair tests can be reliable as far as showing up deficiences go (but i guess that would depend on the lab doing the testing, the one i was going through was a good one)

@taniaaust1 - since you're in SA, is there any chance you might remember whether you used an aussie lab and what its name was?

 

[u&iraok]

Thank you Tania for your helpful answer. I found a practioner who is helping me now. Wish you all the best

Great. Please keep us updated on your daughter's progress.

 

[taniaaust1]

@taniaaust1 - since you're in SA, is there any chance you might remember whether you used an aussie lab and what its name was?

The one my doctor was recommending people use is called InterClinical Laboratories . their email is lab@interclinical.com.au or phone (02) 9693 2888 .

I got about a 13-15 page report with this with dietary etc recommendations based on my own result.

The report also has in it what illnesses the persons imbalances will make them more susceptable too (interestingly it was medical issues I had or are running in my family which I havent got yet eg hypothyroidism runs in my family and was mentioned that im at risk for in my report). I could completely relate to what it said. I cant remember if that was a more detailed option which could be selected with the hair testing or whether it came with their standard hair test.

and I dont know if they still do this but the test was a bit cheaper of one had it done with a doctors backing ($20-30 cheaper). (they then send two reports, one for the person and one for the persons doctor, they give more info in the doctors report so if you are going to go throu a doctor for this make sure its one you trust so you can also get copy of that. If Im remembering correctly the drs report contained advised supplements based on the results).
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edit.. just found their website http://www.interclinical.com.au/hairtissue.php

 

[Lillymom]

Great. Please keep us updated on your daughter's progress.

Yes of course.
First full night sleep with molybdenum