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KDM results are back!

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by trickthefox, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. trickthefox

    trickthefox Senior Member

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    Hi guys!

    Just got my results back from KDM, im going to have a phone call consultation with him in december but for the time being it would be great if anyone with knowledge of what these mean could tell me what to expect in times to come. Im just going to post the abnormal findings

    SIGA - well out of refecence range
    L-lactate - below reffence
    Prostaglandine E2 - above range
    Soluble CD14 - High above range
    VEGF - Well below range
    Vitamin D levels - Above range


    Chlamydia pnemonia igg - positive
    Parovirus B19 igg - Positive - past infection


    Then armin labs results looked like this

    Borriella antigen +10
    Borriella +9
    Borriella LFA1 +4


    Would be cool if anyone could shed some light on these
     
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  2. Helen

    Helen Senior Member

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    Hi @trickthefox ,

    Your LTT test is considered positive for Lyme. I would think it is good to have that test result as it makes it clear what treatment you need.
     
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  3. msf

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    Yes, your LTT result is not borderline like some people´s.
     
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  4. Thinktank

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    This is what i can make out of it;

    The LTT shows you are positive for chronic lyme disease.

    sIgA, below or above reference range? If above it might indicate inflammation or an infection in your gut.
    L-Lactate, i don't know what the significance is of low L-lactate
    PGE2, maybe increased by LPS from gram-negative bacteria?
    sCD14, might indicate a leaky gut.
    VEGF, usually increased in bartonella infection, don't know what the significance is of low VEGF
    Vitamin D, 25-oh or 1,25 di-oh?
     
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  5. Gijs

    Gijs Senior Member

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    Everyone i know with ME/CFS/POTS test positive on LTT test. I hope KDM will publish his results soon in a medical journal.
     
  6. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    I know of some who have tested negative.
     
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  7. heapsreal

    heapsreal iherb 10% discount code OPA989,

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    I get frustrated by this as i improve on some abx, die off on others . But i live in a country that states it doesnt exist and drs who attempt to treat lyme are at a big risk of losing their licensed .

    Testing is hurrendously expensive, not accurate and feel its probably better spent on abx which reduce symptoms.

    But i still would like to know if i have any tic born illnesses or some other bacterial infection.

    One really doesnt need a dr to treat lyme and co but do for testing.

    It seems its very commonly found in cfsme.

    The subject just frustrates me as there doesn't really seem to be an answer, unless u successfully treat it.
     
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  8. Helen

    Helen Senior Member

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    I didn´t have a clear positive LTT-test (only a zero and +1 and a +2), but all other tests were strongly positive for Lyme and co-infections so results surely differ between people.
     
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  9. trickthefox

    trickthefox Senior Member

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    so these tests indicate a strong positive for lymes?
     
  10. Helen

    Helen Senior Member

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    Yes. Do you recall that you had a tick-bite?
     
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  11. Marky90

    Marky90 Science breeds knowledge, opinion breeds ignorance

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    Yeah, but there`s also quite the controversy when it comes to the validity of this test.. However, I remember reading about you having some neurological symptoms, which is quite often seen with lyme.. I dont know, i guess its impossible to know before you have tried certain antibiotics..
     
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  12. msf

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    I tested negative, which isn´t surprising because my trigger was clearly Yersinia, which, again unsurprisingly, I was positive for on the LTT, as well as on antibody tests.
     
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  13. trickthefox

    trickthefox Senior Member

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    the thing that i do know is i have had a week long remission from neurological symptoms, once after a two week course of doxycycline, once after a weeks course of tinidazole, im guessing this along with the results are quite big give aways that it may be lyme causing all this
     
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  14. trickthefox

    trickthefox Senior Member

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    i dont recall any tick bites but ive spent so much time in woods and camping and in nature growing up that i wouldnt be surprised if i got one and missed it
     
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  15. Helen

    Helen Senior Member

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    You will surely get the help and treatment that you´ll need. If you didn´t tell KDM before about your reactions to antibiotic courses I think you should send an e-mail to the clinic to be forwarded to him before your call. It´s definitely a piece of the puzzle.
     
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    What is SIGA? What does that test for?

    Good luck in your treatment for Lyme. I just got my blood drawn for Armin, hopeful it will show me something one way or the other...JAH
     
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    I don't have much to say about the other results, but this one has to be interpreted in consideration with much of your other data, including diet. Its a very broad indicator and can be affected by many things. KDM probably has the information to interpret it though.
     
  18. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

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    What is LTT?
     
  19. Valentijn

    Valentijn Senior Member

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    Lymphocyte Transformation Test.
     
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    High lyme measurements for sure.
    I only seen one other person this high and he had low/normal lactate.
    I dont have a lot of data points but i have contact with 10 people i met at kdm or who went there for test.
    All but one of had 1 or 2 score on armin labs for lyme BUT all had high lactate except for the high lyme person.
     

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