A.B.
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Is it because the drug alternative would be immunoglobulin (at least in severe cases)?
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If it's all about money, why don't they recommand nothing. Nothing is even cheaper than CBT.
As far as I can see Dr Rona Moss-Morris and Dr Chalder write the papers, review them for Cochrane and then appraise the reviews for NICE. I had a suspicion that there was a conflict of interest floating around somewhere but maybe I underestimated.
At least Cochrane seem to be aware that having ME under mental health is tricky.
But NICE is about saving money. Someone has been persuaded that therapists are cheaper than drugs. So getting NICE to change placement is a much tougher issue.
Cochrane don't seem to be doing much about the problems with their work (even after the comments from Courtney, Kindlon, etc, picking it apart) and it's this work that the NICE surveilance review relied upon to advise against updating their guidelines.
Because their next step will be to work out how to pardon themselves?As far as I can see Dr Rona Moss-Morris and Dr Chalder write the papers, review them for Cochrane and then appraise the reviews for NICE. I had a suspicion that there was a conflict of interest floating around somewhere but maybe I underestimated.
Why do I keep thinking of Donald Trump?
Presumably because it is again all the same people. Cochrane mental health begins to look like a sort of money laundering exercise.
Yes, there are already several smartphone apps that can provide CBT for you – no need for a therapist anymore.I have a suspicion the therapists may be marketing themselves out of business soon. After all, there is no evidence that the results of PACE cannot be obtained with robots.
Which isn't very nice at all really; in fact it is very very nasty.But NICE is about saving money.
I was pondering exactly the same comparison today, when I wrote in another post about BPS'ism being akin to a virus, invading so much of what we hold dear. I really do think the same sort of personality types are in play here.As far as I can see Dr Rona Moss-Morris and Dr Chalder write the papers, review them for Cochrane and then appraise the reviews for NICE. I had a suspicion that there was a conflict of interest floating around somewhere but maybe I underestimated.
Why do I keep thinking of Donald Trump?
They probably don't even even know how to say "excuse me".Because their next step will be to work out how to pardon themselves?
Speaking of homeopathy, there was a bit of discussion about this in a thread started by @AndyPR which is relevant to your point @Jonathan Edwards: http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...on-of-homeopathic-remedies.52955/#post-877669But someone high up might agree with you one day and cross it off the list like homeopathy!
I have been thinking this ever since the FOI First Tier Tribunal evidence. The level of involvement in the first two Cochrane reviews invalidates them. Cochrane does not seem to care about its image or reliability.Presumably because it is again all the same people. Cochrane mental health begins to look like a sort of money laundering exercise.
Just seen on twitter that NICE are asking for feedback on a new conflict of interest policy
To give your feedback https://www.nice.org.uk/news/articl...ial&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=coijuly17
Professor Gillian Leng, deputy chief executive at NICE said: “Ensuring that everyone who works with us can trust our decisions and has confidence in what we do is essential to our work.
I do think they care. The real problem is that their reputation hasn't taken a hit outside the very small circle of the ME/CFS community.Cochrane does not seem to care about its image or reliability.
MUS is now being 'officially' used as an alternative to ME.
Here is a candid camera shot of a the ME clinic's notice board in UCL:
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