How the ME zealots tried to terrorise me Dr Max Pemberton

[Sasha]

Nope.

Bet they've turned them off.

Bugger! My comments were sooooo good.

They didn't make Max Pemberton look that great, though.

 

[Wildcat]

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Thats an offensive, disengenuous and deceptive article by Pemberton in the Mail. And unless the Comments are opened, no right of reply. Can someone tweet it to David Tuller - as evidence of what the UK media (and UK doctors) get away with writing about ME and the patients.
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[worldbackwards]

Nope.

Bet they've turned them off.

Or her browser has more sense than to show comments from the Mail.

I want that browser.

 

[Wildcat]

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You'd think busy doctor/journalists should have better things to do than spend yet more time publicly Gaslighting ME patients in the national papers..
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[TiredSam]

Maybe Max is the comments moderator.

 

[CantThink]

Bugger! My comments were sooooo good.

They didn't make Max Pemberton look that great, though.

I'm not so sure they are off. I can only see 3, but I can also still make a comment. Usually when they are turned off it says something along the: comments are no longer being taken for this article, lines.

Because it is the weekend maybe they are stuck in a moderating queue - perhaps less moderators or only working certain shifts.

 

[Sasha]

I'm not so sure they are off. I can only see 3, but I can also still make a comment. Usually when they are turned off it says something along the: comments are no longer being taken for this article, lines.

Because it is the weekend maybe they are stuck in a moderating queue - perhaps less moderators or only working certain shifts.

Could be - and I bet they've got hundreds of comments to work through by now. People will see those three comments and think, "Great" I'll be number four and get loads of attention!"

 

[CFS_for_19_years]

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Thats an offensive, disengenuous and deceptive article by Pemberton in the Mail. And unless the Comments are opened, no right of reply. Can someone tweet it to David Tuller - as evidence of what the UK media (and UK doctors) get away with writing about ME and the patients.
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I haven't figured out yet how to do the twitter-thingy, but I can read, and I think this story should also be tweeted to James Coyne.
Thanks to you all you magnificent posters who keep those of us who have difficulty stringing more than two sentences together inspired!

 

[CantThink]

Could be - and I bet they've got hundreds of comments to work through by now. People will see those three comments and think, "Great" I'll be number four and get loads of attention!"

Also lest we forget... think of all those aggressive M.E. patients with loads of energy who are harrassing them with their multitude of comments. Haha they are probably deluged (hopefully!)

 

[Large Donner]

You wouldn’t threaten to letter-bomb the GP, would you? You’d say thank you very much; what a relief I’m going to see the right doctor.

Is he playing on words here using the word bomb. Is he trying to place it in the minds of the readers that GPs receive explosive packages in the mail?

I am pretty sure no one takes up the ME issue with their GP in the context of the "campaigns" they are talking about anyway. Its done via comment sections in newspaper articles and by contacting researchers and posing genuine questions that they just refuse to address because they are charlatans.

Pemberton is just a jumped up plonker. Absolutely clueless.

 

[Large Donner]

On the same page Pemberton is slagging of "foreign doctors" working in the NHS hyping up issues like "they cant speak English" and he's also warning us all of the dangers of Halloween with gems like these,

"up and down the country, gangs of yobs will see tonight as an excuse to extort money from the elderly and vulnerable..................."

"At its worst, it’s just socially sanctioned doorstep mugging. But no one will stand up and say so for fear of being branded a killjoy."

No doubt the very vulnerable and elderly people he relies on to buy the Daily Mail to inform them who and what to be scared of.

He sees terror, terrorists and the "takeover mentality" everywhere, he must be gunning for a job on FOX news.

 

[Wildcat]

David Tuller and Brian Vastag twitter just now.

https://twitter.com/davidtuller1/with_replies

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   davidtuller ‏@davidtuller1 6 mins6 minutes ago
   @brianvastag @TheLancet They seem to need better public relations at the moment. So does PACE team.
   
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   davidtuller Retweeted
   Brian Vastag ‏@brianvastag 3 hrs3 hours ago
   There are other initiatives in the works to keep pressure on @TheLancet & #PACE authors. This problem is not going to disappear.

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[TiredSam]

On the same page Pemberton is slagging of "foreign doctors" working in the NHS hyping up issues like "they cant speak English" and he's also warning us all of the dangers of Halloween with gems like these,





No doubt the very vulnerable and elderly people he relies on to buy the Daily Mail to inform them who and what to be scared of.

He sees terror, terrorists and the "takeover mentality" everywhere, he must be gunning for a job on FOX news.

The irony of his first article being about the harm caused by doctors who don't speak the same language as their patients being followed by a rant against ME patients doesn't seem to have occured to him, so here's the headline and a few sentences from his first article, with absolutely minimal editing:

DR MAX: Frightening farce of BPS authors who can barely speak Science

…I felt desperately sorry for them, because they were working well outside their capabilities — and they knew it.
But I felt even sorrier for their patients. Imagine how they felt, faced with a doctor who could barely conduct a conversation about the weather, let alone a complicated medical issue.

Of all the things we want from a doctor, the most basic is that they can understand us and we can understand them. But too often now that isn’t the case.

Trust me, this is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg. Talk to almost any patient and they’ll have similar horror stories. Could there be anything more grotesque?

Communication is the bread and butter of my job. Imagine if this was the aviation industry and there were pilots who couldn’t land a plane.

The irony is that medical research scientists spend long hours being taught research skills. Yet doctors from BPS are able to get jobs in ME research when they can barely speak the lingo, let alone know when they should be nodding sympathetically to a patient.

What worries me most is that this problem disproportionately affects patients who have an unexplained physical illness like ME. This means that those most in need receive some of the worst care. This can be devastating.

I’m glad the medical authorities are now getting tougher, but the system is still wide open to abuse. Scientific medical research tests are not compulsory if you’re from the BPS.

The only rational solution is that every single BPS author with a qualification from outside the areas of scientific medical research must take a science test in order to work on ME. Do we think patients deserve any less?

All he has to do is to apply the sentiments of his first article to the subject matter of the second, but instead he chooses to reserve his outrage for people who can't speak English, and stick the boot into ME patients.

You can imagine the scene in the editor's office last night:

Editor: "Max, I'd like you to write two articles for tomorrow's paper that will leave no-one in any doubt about what a complete **** you are."

Max: "Two? I'll give you three. I'll even throw in one calling kids "gangs of yobs" and calling for a ban on Halloween. There'll be someone to stigmatise and fear in each article, I'll guarantee it. Kids, ME patients, foreigners, all the same to me, as long as they're an easy target."

 

[SOC]

The irony of his first article being about the harm caused by doctors who don't speak the same language as their patients being followed by a rant against ME patients doesn't seem to have occured to him, so here's the headline and a few sentences from his first article, with absolutely minimal editing:

Brilliant and hilarious!

The man makes it pretty clear what kind of person he is with these three articles. It's hard to feel too bad about being dissed by a guy with so much irrational hatred for so many different groups. I might even be a little worried if he considered us part of his In crowd instead of one of the bad guys.

 

[CFS_for_19_years]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Dr Max Pemberton For The Daily Mail

Sooooooo many serious articles to his credit here, I bet he can turn one out every time he visits the shitter, or as suggested earlier, three at a time on a good day.

 

[Large Donner]

The irony of his first article being about the harm caused by doctors who don't speak the same language as their patients being followed by a rant against ME patients doesn't seem to have occured to him, so here's the headline and a few sentences from his first article, with absolutely minimal editing:

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DR MAX: Frightening farce of BPS authors who can barely speak Science

…I felt desperately sorry for them, because they were working well outside their capabilities — and they knew it.
But I felt even sorrier for their patients. Imagine how they felt, faced with a doctor who could barely conduct a conversation about the weather, let alone a complicated medical issue.

Of all the things we want from a doctor, the most basic is that they can understand us and we can understand them. But too often now that isn’t the case.

Trust me, this is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg. Talk to almost any patient and they’ll have similar horror stories. Could there be anything more grotesque?

Communication is the bread and butter of my job. Imagine if this was the aviation industry and there were pilots who couldn’t land a plane.

The irony is that medical research scientists spend long hours being taught research skills. Yet doctors from BPS are able to get jobs in ME research when they can barely speak the lingo, let alone know when they should be nodding sympathetically to a patient.

What worries me most is that this problem disproportionately affects patients who have an unexplained physical illness like ME. This means that those most in need receive some of the worst care. This can be devastating.

I’m glad the medical authorities are now getting tougher, but the system is still wide open to abuse. Scientific medical research tests are not compulsory if you’re from the BPS.

The only rational solution is that every single BPS author with a qualification from outside the areas of scientific medical research must take a science test in order to work on ME. Do we think patients deserve any less?

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All he has to do is to apply the sentiments of his first article to the subject matter of the second, but instead he chooses to reserve his outrage for people who can't speak English, and stick the boot into ME patients.

You can imagine the scene in the editor's office last night:

Editor: "Max, I'd like you to write two articles for tomorrow's paper that will leave no-one in any doubt about what a complete **** you are."

Max: "Two? I'll give you three. I'll even throw in one calling kids "gangs of yobs" and calling for a ban on Halloween. There'll be someone to stigmatise and fear in each article, I'll guarantee it. Kids, ME patients, foreigners, all the same to me, as long as they're an easy target."

That is brilliant, please please go and post that on the Daily Mail comment section under the said articles.

 

[Large Donner]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Dr Max Pemberton For The Daily Mail

Sooooooo many serious articles to his credit here, I bet he can turn one out every time he visits the shitter, or as suggested earlier, three at a time on a good day.

Oh dear is all I can say after reading those previous headlines of his articles.

 

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On the same page Pemberton is slagging of "foreign doctors" working in the NHS hyping up issues like "they cant speak English" and he's also warning us all of the dangers of Halloween with gems like these,





No doubt the very vulnerable and elderly people he relies on to buy the Daily Mail to inform them who and what to be scared of.

He sees terror, terrorists and the "takeover mentality" everywhere, he must be gunning for a job on FOX news.

OMG, terrifying gangs of small children asking nicely for sweets at the door while their mum watches from a few feet away!? Anything but that!

 

[CFS_for_19_years]

OMG, terrifying gangs of small children asking nicely for sweets at the door while their mum watches from a few feet away!? Anything but that!

 

[alex3619]

Is he trying to place it in the minds of the readers that GPs receive explosive packages in the mail?

Terrorism is a hot topic, and people are sensitive to it. By linking us to terrorism he is creating an association in the minds of some readers that ME activists are akin to terrorists.