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Holgate - 'Encouraging new ideas for ME/CFS research'

Esther12

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Fingers crossed for the future. I have to admit I'm more hopeful about research outside of the UK. Hopefully having Coyne and Laws take an interest might help progress things on the biopsychosocial side here too.

Here's the Holgate quote in case you're interested:

He knew the community had to start afresh. He wooed several charities to join a new CFS-ME research collaborative, and secured more than £1.6m from the Medical Research Council to fund five grants. The collaborative wants to raise the profile of CFS-ME research, talk to patients and professionals about priorities, and review the UK and international research landscape.

“Part of the problem has been that patients have been seeking a single treatment for a single problem, but, as the recent IOM report points out, these are complicated interactions in different patients,” Holgate says.

His approach sounds a lot like what Jason wants in the USA: a collective of medical practitioners, researchers, patient groups and funders working to strategically improve the evidence base for this disease. Unlike Jason’s emphasis on transparency and patient participation, however, the secret to the UK collaborative’s success, according to Holgate, is a membership charter that forbids harassment or abuse of researchers. In effect, patient groups are banned from whipping up a media frenzy over research findings.

The charter has already been tested a couple of times, says Holgate, who gave the aggressors a choice: apologise or leave. He’s even suggested that he’ll disband the collaborative completely if all parties don’t play by the rules.


“We set up the charter to protect researchers; anybody who joins us can’t abuse or upset that trust,” he says. “There is power in this to stop silly publicity which is quite destructive.”

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...ly-understand-chronic-fatigue-syndrome.41131/
 

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Bob

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I don't know if this answers your question, but I assume that he is thinking in terms of the big data project that he is setting up. He intends to use the data to separate and stratify cohorts. e.g. collecting data on proteomics, metabolomics, genes, etc. etc. He views ME/CFS as a heterogeneous collection of illnesses and believes that a big data project is the best way forward in order to try to understand what's going on and attempt to distinguish sets of patients, or even to aim for personalised medicine. Although there seems to be a lot of nonsense going on at the CMRC, his underlying ambition seems laudable.
 

biophile

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In effect, patient groups are banned from whipping up a media frenzy over research findings.

Are researchers in the CMRC banned from whipping up a media frenzy over a few abusive emails?

Looks like the answer is no (in fact certain researchers wanted to promote the harassment theme at the launch and worked with the Science Media Centre to create a media blitz of their own):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/92m09l9tq55pihh/Behind the Scenes - Research Collaborative.pdf?dl=0

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/w...arch-function-at-the-Science-Media-Centre.pdf
 
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user9876

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Are researchers in the CMRC banned from whipping up a media frenzy over a few abusive emails?

Looks like the answer is no (in fact certain researchers wanted to promote the harassment theme at the launch and worked with the Science Media Centre to create a media blitz of their own):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/92m09l9tq55pihh/Behind the Scenes - Research Collaborative.pdf?dl=0

http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/w...arch-function-at-the-Science-Media-Centre.pdf

The original clause and this statement suggest a lack of respect for patients. What they are basically saying is they trust 'researchers' but not patients and patients opinions need to be filtered.

I think its very reflective of some of the old fashioned medical opinions common in the UK.