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Feel better while fasting !?

Discussion in 'Gastrointestinal and Urinary' started by Banana94, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. Banana94

    Banana94 Senior Member

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    Does someone feel better while fasting?
    I feel lots better while fasting and if I eat something than low carb/ ketogenic diet

    I have high bactroidetes discovered by stool analysis. KDM prescribed me now Ornidazol for 10 days..

    Do you make the same experiences?

    thanky for sharing
     
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    drob31 Senior Member

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    This would raise your cortisol, and stabilize your blood sugar.

    Blood sugar has an affect on the immune system apparently.
     
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    knackers323 Senior Member

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    @Banana94 how long without food do you begin to feel better and at what point do the benefits plateau?
     
  4. Banana94

    Banana94 Senior Member

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    It starts very quickly 2 days with one small meal per day makes my condition much better. I ve never tried it longer than 3 days. It s difficult to say because I'm taking ABX which also affects my condition negatively.
     
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    Plum Senior Member

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    I feel better while intermittent fasting i.e. I don't eat for at least 15 hours. Sometimes longer. As soon as I eat I feel a bit better hunger wise but then there's additional fatigue as my body has to digest etc. I can also feel better not having lunch or leaving it really late. A meal seems to drain my energy for several hours. I don't eat huge portions so I have to eat 3 meals otherwise I don't take in enough to sustain me. I wish I could eat a bit more and then only have 2 meals a day. I've also found when stressful situations happen I can go most of the day without needing to eat and this seems to give me a little more energy to deal with the emergency.
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    hi banana
    i have high bacteriodes too.
    interesting he was using VSL when i went there, not Ornidazol.
    let us know how you fair out end 10 days,
     
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    Also interested if the Ornidazole helped!

    I've been doing IF on and off for a couple of months now. I've found it hard to stick with although I'm unsure why and feel down on myself for not doing better. The results were really quite good and even better if I avoided simple carbohydrates.

    My goal is an 18 hour fasting window per day. I usually eat around 2pm and break my fast with something mild like bone broth and blueberries. Supper just whatever I have planned for the family. I'm very impressed that while doing this I've had energy to cook, where as before that was hit or miss and a great undertaking at all times.

    When I first started it was very difficult and I was hit with intense hunger, but now my body has adjusted and it has dialed back the cortisol and adrenaline a bit and now seems content with waiting until it's lunch time at 1-2pm (I try to stop eating by 6 or 7pm altogether for the evening).

    I felt so much better I decided to use my free gym pass to check out the local gym. I put in about a 30 minute workout, but the day after could not get out of bed and the day after that was highly fatigued with brain fog.

    During my worst CFS days it's like my brain doesn't work. Sometimes it tries to furiously think, but often it loses the plot altogether. Everything seems like far too much effort and my trip to the gym seems like an impossible memory belonging to someone else.

    With the IF - I am able to get more done, it's still about 25% of what a normal person can accomplish I would suppose but it does help. I am considering a four day fast of water (with himalyan sea salt for electrolytes). For me, I really must suspect my GI is involved with how I'm feeling.
     
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    I'm better with regular eating. My attempts at fasting resulted in extra fainting and weakness. A diet of juices (veges and fruit) was the worst with violent vomiting, fainting and then months to recover.

    Overall I am better with some carbs in the morning and then protein in the afternoon or evening. Ideally 2 meals a day are good with me and a snack before bedtime or inbetween if I am hungry.

    Like @Plum I find lunch is often better to skip as it doesn't to return any better functioning or strength for me. and can be draining
     
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  9. Banana94

    Banana94 Senior Member

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    Its about a week my first round of 10 days Ornidazol ended. After 4 days of taking it I feld better, but at the end I got extremly tired from it..
    At the end I cant say if it changed so much in my gut, it seems to take a long time changing the microbiome. I have to take it again for ten days in january..will keep you updated!
    @gregh286 how high are you bacteroides?
    Mind are abou 45% insted <10% due to RED Labs
    Hope I can get rid of them..
     
  10. knackers323

    knackers323 Senior Member

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    Ive seen reports and programs that say the microbiome can be largely altered in around three days.

    I have no idea if true or not
     
  11. Banana94

    Banana94 Senior Member

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    Sounds interesting, do you have a link?
     

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