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Fatigue and inflamed eyes

Discussion in 'General Symptoms' started by tolo, May 19, 2015.

  1. tolo

    tolo

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    Whenever I feel fatigued my eyes become completely inflamed.

    I'm talking bloodshot with thick squiggly veins, dry, irritated/gritty and sensitive to just about everything (light and wind e.g.). Sometimes when I haven't slept enough, they also get this sunken look to them and consequently my dark circles become even more prominent.

    It mostly happens on days following a bad night's sleep. The whole following day I look like a complete mess and my eyes feel uncomfortable.

    Other days I wake up and feel fine. My eyes look bright and feel smooth, then towards late afternoon or early evening I often get hit with a wave of fatigue. I yawn every couple of minutes, my brain shuts off, anxiety, drowsiness and not to mention it looks like I have conjunctivitis/ocular rosacea.

    I get the same eye symptoms if I skip meals or go longer than, let's say 5 hours or more, without food/water.

    Eye drops that lubricate help marginally but I need to basically abuse them to have a noticeable lasting calming effect and they do nothing for the redness. The ones that "remove redness" help the most but I really don't like using them because of the rebound effect when I stop using them.

    Does anyone know what the mechanisms behind this could be? Seemingly every time I get fatigued my eyes get the worst of it..
     
  2. gregh286

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    i am like that also.
    they go very puffy and baggy below eyes....coincides with fatigue level. additionally higher thirst comes as well.
    i can tell a fatigue crash is near or in full flight by puffy eyes/dry mouth.
    i cant tell why these are trigger identifiers.
    My best guess is endocrine dysfunction by HPA axis....and/or a hormonal distress
     
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  3. Misfit Toy

    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    Okay, have you ever been tested for Sjogrens Syndrome? I have Sjogrens and the main part of the illness is dry eye. When I am extremely fatigued, the same happens to me. I am not saying you do have this and it could be part of CFS/ME, but for me, it is this illness.

    I have to use Restasis.

    Dry mouth is also a major symptom as the disease affects the eyes and mouth the most.

    Just something to think about. I thought it was ME for years and found out it was another illness that can be treated and there are medicines for.
     
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    gregh286 Senior Member

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    What is the treatmet for sjorgens?
    Aside from eye drops and chewing gum etc?
    Is there medicine based treatment.
     
  5. tolo

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    Thank you for answering..

    My eyes never go puffy or baggy when I haven't slept well, quite the opposite actually. It's like someone took a syringe and drained fluid around them.

    Regarding mouth dryness I don't seem to have a problem with that and usually I seem to produce a lot of saliva. I do have a problem with excess phlegm.

    I have been looking around on Sjogrens forums and I can 100% relate to their eye symptoms. Dryness, burning, light sensitivity, gritty feeling, itchiness and redness that's chronic all year long.
    Even though I have had a history of excess dental cavities and asthma like issues, my nose and mouth usually aren't dry.

    So I haven't been tested for Sjogrens and I'm not sure I fit the bill, but I have and appointment with an ophthalmologist next week so hopefully I can start at least ruling things out.

    Mostly I wanted to see if someone knew of any systemic issues that could cause this. I feel as if it were a wave of inflammation that washes over me suddenly and all I want to do is go to bed and sleep it off. I never thought a person could yawn that many times in a short period, but here I am and it's been coming and going for the last couple of years.
     
  6. gregh286

    gregh286 Senior Member

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    yeah I get that crash wave.....like a tsunami is coming.
    only place is bed when it arrives.
    eyes and dry mouth not too much annoyance....I have very bad fatigue mostly everyday......its much much worse.
     

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