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Eysenck’s contribution to CBT for physical health problems: fraudulent data

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Daisymay, May 30, 2016.

  1. Daisymay

    Daisymay Senior Member

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    I made a comment to try and draw attention to the widespread use of methods that can easily generate false positive results for CBT.

    It's hard to believe but it's possible that this sort of self-deception or fraud (hard to prove) may have been going on since the days of Eysenck. Which means that a lot of money has been wasted, directly and indirectly. Just because it's widespread and accepted within the circle of the UK psych academic community doess't mean it's right.
     
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  3. Skippa

    Skippa Anti-BS

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    Sounds like a lot of money saved if I were a governmental financier ;)
     
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    The page is not available now - I've even tried a couple of different browsers.
     
  5. Bob

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    When i first came across the corruption in the CFS field in relation to CBT/GET, I thought the bold and bare-faced exaggeration and lies on the part of the researchers, selective citation and self-citation, ugly and aggressive self-promotion, corrupt clinical practices, and general public/media ignorance about the issues, were unique to the CFS field. As time has gone by I've had my eyes opened to a broad underbelly of academic corruption, in relation to biopsychosocial/cognitive-behavioural research and practices, which I initially had no idea about. Unfortunately the impact of these practices has a disproportional negative impact on ME/CFS for so many reasons. But it seems that we are not unique targets, which means that we have allies when challenging the practices. Some academics have been challenging it for perhaps decades.
     
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  6. Bob

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    The page is available now.
     
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  7. Invisible Woman

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    Nope, the link doesn't work. However, found the post by just going to the blogs page and selecting it.
     
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  8. Marco

    Marco Grrrrrrr!

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    Yes, well, indeed!
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy

    Google Chrome finds the word "Eysenck" 5 times on this page.

     
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    Only half way through Coyne's (history) piece... Good Lord, the drama connected to this disease never ends! ME history, politics, mad "scientists", real scientists, affected individuals, families, advocates... Somebody needs to write it all up and sell it to Netflix!
     
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    You could create a documentary style series of episodes, each covering a different thing, moving forward, and starting many decades ago. You need one for PACE, and then one for the aftermath where it all came apart.
     
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    There could be a part in the film where someone is giving a talk to an audience saying I have a dream and a new vision for the future that one day all illnesses will be treated with CBT then a rapturous applause from the audience
     
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    I feel sorry for Coyne. He makes such an effort to expose fraud and it seems that his article is barely getting any attention. The silence is deafening. Why are UK academics not denouncing this fraud, or at least expressing concern? Is CBT for physical problems too big to fail?

    Surreal as so many things in this area.
     
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    After reading this article they are probably busy doing CBT on themselves because of the negative thoughts that were popping up in their heads.
     
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  16. sarah darwins

    sarah darwins I told you I was ill

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    A lot of truth in this, I suspect.
     
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    This is the essence of Zombie Science. Embed the poor science in political, bureaucratic and business systems and not only will they fund you more they will defend you. The quality of the science then gets overlooked.
     
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