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Employment Must Not Be the Aim of Mental Health Treatment (Huffington Post UK article)

Discussion in 'Other Health News and Research' started by Kyla, Jul 4, 2016.

  1. Kyla

    Kyla ᴀɴɴɪᴇ ɢꜱᴀᴍᴩᴇʟ

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/dr-jay-watts/mental-health_b_10769174.html?edition=uk

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    I would like to add a caveat. I agree with the commentary above, but would like to add that I wish employment outcomes were a standard objective measure in studies in psychiatry. If we use that on PACE it becomes FAIL.
     
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    I agree - but for a different reason - it will show that such interventions do not lead to employment changes - so the justification for such therapies to increase employment (as per the article in question) is eliminated.
     
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    Yes, that is a direct implication of what I am saying. Objective outcome measure are needed to prevent psychobabble claims being taken seriously. I think some percentage of people with some problems may be helped ... but I think it is small. In any case if we had evidence, hard evidence, then pie-in-the-sky claims could be directly countered.
     
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    the only people who may be helped back into working life are those who are only suffering from a lack of self confidence after a period of unemployment. as for where these benevolent employers who would actually take on people with chronic health problems they probably live in the same cloud cuckoo land that the dwp s policy makers live in . certainly not the world i have observed.
     
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    here in Australia they try to get around this by the disability job agencies which help the disabled to find jobs, they often encourage the person to do cleaning contract work in the belief that the person who has ME/CFS can choose their own better times to work and say "oh you can cancel out then when you are sicker and just make it another time'

    of cause that doesnt work well and just causes a huge amount of stress from all the cancelations ones does and then the work to get throu just gets more and more as the cancel jobs get added to the others
     
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    Wow sounds like religion. Religion no longer uses God to explain lightning. Now it looks like psychiatry is giving up on its assertion that it can get people back to work :)
     
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