Detox Troubles... Worsening Sulfur Intolerance and Chemical Sensitivity

[korobokkuru]

I'm in kind of a weird spot between doctors as I moved a couple months ago and haven't yet found a good person locally. So I hope maybe someone can help me.

About me: chronic lyme, candida, severe chemical sensitivity, allergies to foods, abx, others, oxalate sensitivity, sulfur sensitivity, mild thyroiditis

Treated with: banderol, samento, collolidal silver, monolaurin, grapefruit seed extract, diflucan, LDN, amla, multimineral and B complex, methyl B12 injx, aloe vera - not much progress!!

My current situation: Leaky gut + candida persistent so was recommended MSM, NAC, among other things. Cannot tolerate these at all!!!! Suddenly found myself with overwhelming sulfur sensitivity. MSM, NAC, epsom salts, onions, garlic, etc cause extreme nausea, racing heart, feeling faint, fatigue. Why suddenly now? Always had migraines with raw garlic but never had this till now.

Ultimately these sensitivities are a detox issue right? I feel now this is the biggest burden preventing me from getting better. Although I supposedly have infections, antimicrobials don't have much positive effect... just herx a bit, then nothing.

My question: How to approach detoxification? I had my methylation profile done and my doc said nothing is too remarkable except some CYP stuff, which no one seems to know what it is?

I'm thinking about trying the Klinghardt protocol but seems like a lot of foundation work with vit K protocol before I would actually get to the detox portion? After the K protocol how can I tackle my specific sensitivities (oxalates, sulfur, etc?)

In the past my doctor recommended me a detox kit from biotics research but I couldn't tolerate it at all! It made me so nauseous, lost my appetite, super bad toilet troubles... and only got worse as I tried to push through, so I gave up. I'm hypersensitive to everything, starting a new treatment is like stepping through a minefield... I feel these bad reactions must be a sign that I'm really in need of detox, and just need to find an approach I can tolerate?

Any comments at all are greatly appreciated! Thanks!

 

[ahmo]

I based my detox a lot on Klinghardt. I was also on GAPS diet, with bone broth and juicing both helping detox. Initially I used footbaths with clay and charcoal, drank juice w/ chlorella. Once I was less cautious, I began eating clay + diatomaceous earth. I've written about this in my blog entry on footbaths.

This year I did hours of research to design a Candida/SIBO protocol for myself. You'll find another blog w/ that. The sgtrongest medicine for me during these 3 years of healing has been coffee enemas. Another blog. No matter what substances I was taking by mouth or footbath, I was using coffee enemas to support my liver and adrenals.

I still have sulfur issues, but less severe that initially. Ive put a tiny bit back into my diet. I'm linking a couple of threads that were extremely helpful for me in dealing w/ sulfur. One key is molybdenum.



http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/b2-i-love-you.15209/page-42#post-533217

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nd-sulfites-the-boron-fix-for-sulfites.39025/ Boron, Molybdenum, SUOX and Sulfites. (The Boron Fix for Sulfites)

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/new-inexpensive-cbs-ammonia-fix.31835/page-3

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/when-common-snps-matter.39635/#post-637004

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/poisoning-the-mitochondria.27790/page-2#post-426619

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...eatment-comt-vdr-mao.37671/page-2#post-600541

 

[korobokkuru]

I based my detox a lot on Klinghardt. I was also on GAPS diet, with bone broth and juicing both helping detox. Initially I used footbaths with clay and charcoal, drank juice w/ chlorella. Once I was less cautious, I began eating clay + diatomaceous earth. I've written about this in my blog entry on footbaths.

This year I did hours of research to design a Candida/SIBO protocol for myself. You'll find another blog w/ that. The sgtrongest medicine for me during these 3 years of healing has been coffee enemas. Another blog. No matter what substances I was taking by mouth or footbath, I was using coffee enemas to support my liver and adrenals.

I still have sulfur issues, but less severe that initially. Ive put a tiny bit back into my diet. I'm linking a couple of threads that were extremely helpful for me in dealing w/ sulfur. One key is molybdenum.



http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/b2-i-love-you.15209/page-42#post-533217

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...nd-sulfites-the-boron-fix-for-sulfites.39025/ Boron, Molybdenum, SUOX and Sulfites. (The Boron Fix for Sulfites)

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/new-inexpensive-cbs-ammonia-fix.31835/page-3

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/when-common-snps-matter.39635/#post-637004

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/poisoning-the-mitochondria.27790/page-2#post-426619

http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...eatment-comt-vdr-mao.37671/page-2#post-600541

Hi Ahmo, thanks for the info!! Still trying to work my way through it.
I'm starting to get a bit confused, maybe you can help?

Today after eating an onion I hyperventilated. (God knows why I thought eating an onion would be a good idea.) Hyperventilation made me think it must be a metabolic issue and so I looked it up and found hyperventilation is a sign of acidosis. I also found that the conversion of sulfur to sulfate can cause excess H+ which leads to acidosis: https://books.google.com/books?id=3...-Ch0vDAzd#v=onepage&q=acidosis sulfur&f=false

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something because this seems like the opposite of what everyone is saying on the threads you posted? Because everyone is talking about low sulfate, but acidosis would be caused by too much sulfate converted too quickly? Maybe hyperventilation wasn't a sign of acidosis after all? Any ideas on this? I'm quite confused...

 

[ahmo]

Sorry, I can't help.

 

[PointsNorth]

@korobokkuru

Low Dose Immunotherapy for CFS/Lyme etc. I have progressive MS not CFS but thought you should look into this.

https://www.draraelmajian.ca/resources/allergy-treatment/

 

[Rrrr]

@korobokkuru @PointsNorth There is acutally a thread on this forum focusing on Low Dose Immunotherapy. And it can be used for ME/CFS and lyme and MCS. It seems VERY promising for all those conditions. There is also a GREAT Facebook discussion on this. Just search on facebook for "LDI for Lyme". It is a closed group, but you just need to ask to join.

 

[Rrrr]

this is the thread on this forum talking about Low Dose Immunotherapy
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...therapy-lda-ldi-lyme.38026/page-3#post-643514

 

[korobokkuru]

I mentioned that I'm between doctors but I was able to consult with my old dr and got some answers! Hooray

@Rrrr @PointsNorth My dr thinks LDA isn't going to help in my specific case... I wasn't clear exactly why it would be contraindicated? But I trust my doctor so I decided not to try it.

Since you brought up lyme treatments I might as well tell you what my doctor recommended for me: several supplements to strengthen immunity-- trans factor lymplus, trans factor multi immune (hope I can tolerate these since they contain dairy), lyme bullet essential oil blend, and enteragam (if I can get my insurance to pay for it.) Also HBOT, infrared light, biocharger, and other energy therapy.

Maybe it's possible my doctor was worried about LDA bc my immune system is too overwhelmed with multiple infections, plus I have low immunity in the first place (low IgA, borderline low IgM, low CD57)? I'm kind of reading between the lines here...?

@ahmo About sulfur sensitivity: My dr theorizes that my sensitivity is due to bad microbes in my gut. If I'm understanding right, they are breaking down the sulfur and creating toxins which cause my symptoms? So the proposed treatment is stronger probiotics with more variety of species. Maybe it's not totally a detox issue? I've been doing alka seltzer (alkalizing) and that seems to help...

Article about sulfur intolerance and dysbiosis I found: http://aspirenaturalhealth.com/sulf...e-puzzle-post-149-by-dr-tim-gerstmar-3262012/

Sorry this thread isn't really about detox issues anymore... oops >_<

 

[sillysocks84]

@korobokkuru I have sulfur issues too, is this due to chelating things out of the system making me more reactive? Is that what you're saying your experience has been? I can't eat onions, garlic, chocolate, especially around my time of the month. My throat actually starts to swell and I get rashes.

 

[korobokkuru]

@sillysocks84 sorry i dont know much about chelation and no my issues are (according to my doctor) largely not related to chelation or heavy metal toxicity.

in my case it seems that i have an excess of bad microbes in my gut (as well as in many other parts of my body). bad microbes means bad bacteria which turn regular nutrients (like sulfur) into toxins and poison me.

i haven't had a swollen throat or rashes from sulfur so i'm not sure what to tell you. i don't know much about chelation so i can't give you advice, sorry. @ahmo can you help @sillysocks84 ?

 

[sillysocks84]

I was basically wondering if heavy metals being chelated may have disturbed the mast cells causing a reaction. I don't know why I only react to sulfites...

 

[Hopeful2021]

@korobokkuru I have sulfur issues too, is this due to chelating things out of the system making me more reactive? Is that what you're saying your experience has been? I can't eat onions, garlic, chocolate, especially around my time of the month. My throat actually starts to swell and I get rashes.

@sillysocks84 I am interested in resolving my sulfur for issues too. I really miss eating garlic. I am running more sessions with the Biocharger hoping to flip some unknown or some magic switch to help resolve.

 

[Hopeful2021]

I mentioned that I'm between doctors but I was able to consult with my old dr and got some answers! Hooray

@Rrrr @PointsNorth My dr thinks LDA isn't going to help in my specific case... I wasn't clear exactly why it would be contraindicated? But I trust my doctor so I decided not to try it.

Since you brought up lyme treatments I might as well tell you what my doctor recommended for me: several supplements to strengthen immunity-- trans factor lymplus, trans factor multi immune (hope I can tolerate these since they contain dairy), lyme bullet essential oil blend, and enteragam (if I can get my insurance to pay for it.) Also HBOT, infrared light, biocharger, and other energy therapy.

Maybe it's possible my doctor was worried about LDA bc my immune system is too overwhelmed with multiple infections, plus I have low immunity in the first place (low IgA, borderline low IgM, low CD57)? I'm kind of reading between the lines here...?

@ahmo About sulfur sensitivity: My dr theorizes that my sensitivity is due to bad microbes in my gut. If I'm understanding right, they are breaking down the sulfur and creating toxins which cause my symptoms? So the proposed treatment is stronger probiotics with more variety of species. Maybe it's not totally a detox issue? I've been doing alka seltzer (alkalizing) and that seems to help...

Article about sulfur intolerance and dysbiosis I found: http://aspirenaturalhealth.com/sulf...e-puzzle-post-149-by-dr-tim-gerstmar-3262012/

Sorry this thread isn't really about detox issues anymore... oops >_<

@korobokkuru

That's so interesting you mention the Biocharger specially in relation to lyme. Did it work out for you?
How many other sessions did you do? Only the Lyme recipes?

I'd love to hear from more people in this community sharing their experience good or bad with the Biocharger. So far it's been really helpful for me.
I notice a difference in my lymphatic system right away.