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Desperate Dutch scientists

ScottTriGuy

Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.
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Good work 'outing' the babblers - I especially like this sound byte:

"It is from scientific point of view a mortal sin that the definition of recovery is only determined after completion of the trial."