David Tuller - Trial By Error, Continued: A Follow-Up Post on FITNET-NHS

[Cheshire]

Last week’s post on FITNET-NHS and Esther Crawley stirred up a lot of interest. I guess people get upset when researchers cite shoddy “evidence” from poorly designed trials to justify foisting psychological treatments on kids with a physiological disease. I wanted to post some additional bits and pieces related to the issue.
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From reading the research of the CBT/GET/PACE crowd, I get the impression they are all in the habit of peer-reviewing and supporting each others’ work. I make that assumption because it is hard to imagine that independent scientists not affiliated with this group would overlook all the obvious problems that mar their studies—like outcome measures that represent worse health than entry criteria, as in the PACE trial itself. So it’s not surprising to learn that one of the three principal PACE investigators, psychiatrist Michael Sharpe, was on the committee that reviewed—and approved—Dr. Crawley’s one-million-pound FITNET-NHS study.

http://www.virology.ws/2016/11/28/trial-by-error-continued-a-follow-up-post-on-fitness-nhs/

 

[slysaint]

On ECs FITNET leaflet:
"Also, the whole point of clinical trials is to find out if treatments work—in this case, whether the online CBT approach is effective, as well as cost-effective. But the leaflet is essentially announcing the result–“recovery”—before the trial even starts. If Dr. Crawley is so sure that this treatment is effective in leading to “recovery,” why is she doing the trial in the first place? And if she’s not sure what the results will be, why is she promising “recovery”?"

Very, very good question

 

[SilverbladeTE]

and why is anyone abusing children this way who has ANY compassion and scientific integrity, and why isn't she and others in jail?

 

[actup]

Wow! Bam! Crunch! Boom! Zonk! Pow! Thank you, thank you David Tuller for your powerful, eloquent, 'aim right between the eyes' writing.

 

[Esther12]

Good to see him looking at Crawley's work. The researcher most likely to harm patients over the next decade?

 

[worldbackwards]

Good to see him looking at Crawley's work. The researcher most likely to harm patients over the next decade?

It's a hotly contested field.

 

[Barry53]

and why is anyone abusing children this way who has ANY compassion and scientific integrity, and why isn't she and others in jail?

All in good time.

 

[Barry53]

ME/CFS BPS effect in a nutshell ...

http://www.virology.ws/2016/11/28/trial-by-error-continued-a-follow-up-post-on-fitnet-nhs/

http://quillette.com/2016/02/15/the-unbearable-asymmetry-of-bullshit/

As the programmer Alberto Brandolini is reputed to have said: “The amount of energy necessary to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.

 

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Superando el SFC/EM • a day ago
It's amazing to see how easily you can shut the mouths of this kind of pretentious "doctors" that won't hesitate to earn fame and $$$$ at expense of innocent people's health (and what is worse, at expense of children's health).

I'm a member of the spanish #millionsmissing team (#millonesausentes) and we would love to translate all your awesome articles about the PACE case and now FITNET (I heard some are calling it SHITNET??) so please, if there is a way we could translate the great tools you've created to defend pwme from harmful ideologies and practices in the medical community, let me know!


SHITNET- how very appropriate Superando el SFE/EM. Loved this comment on David Tuller's 11/28 blog post