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Daily Mail: How bacterial infections in kids can cause behavioural issues

Enid

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Very interesting - thanks Glynis. Can't help noticing the psyches as usual ever sceptic.
 
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I've read a few things saying similar stuff over the last few years... but I'd also be a bit cautious of claims in the Daily Mail.

Actually, I feel pretty cautious of medical claims made anywhere.
 

Glynis Steele

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I've read a few things saying similar stuff over the last few years... but I'd also be a bit cautious of claims in the Daily Mail.

Actually, I feel pretty cautious of medical claims made anywhere.

Hi Esther,

I agree, though Great Ormond Street Hospital do recognise PANDAS as being a real condition, as I remember a tv prgramme years ago mentioning this, and I checked it out for myself. It seems that GP's are most likely unaware of it.
 

SilverbladeTE

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considering the potency and effects of toxins created by bacteria, it's not surprising, iirc, later investigations of tetanus toxin found it to be far more potent than botulinous toxin, talking many orders of magnitude more deadly than sarin nerve gas
so you wouldn't need much of these kind of agents to cause serious damage to the brain/nervous system, or other (other examples include fungal poisons that damage the liver/kidneys who's potency is extreme, but not nearly as hellish as botulinous or tetanus but th effects are often irreversible or continual)

I read an artcile 20+ years ago, in, of all places, Readers Digest, about a fellow who had OCD
for some reason or other, they treated him with antibiotic and found while on it, his OCD stopped...and recurred savagely if he quit the antibiotics, as the infection couldn't be permanently cleared up