Hip
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What do I look like? An expert in special ed?
Half an hour ago you offered to explain, now you've suddenly lost your enthusiasm?
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What do I look like? An expert in special ed?
Half an hour ago you offered to explain, now you've suddenly lost your enthusiasm?
"Offered to explain"? Really? I don't recall saying anything like that...
The problem I have here is obesity can be seen as a psycho-social problem, which can possibly solved with changes of behaviors. I think researchers at the NIH have demonstrated that obesity is a bigger problem than psycho-social. That metabolisms are very difficult to change and if someone loses weight intentionally, the body fights a mighty fight to return to the original body weight. It's quite fascinating unless you're in that situation.
So when Mrs Crawly is attacking the problem, she will likely only take a look at psycho-social interventions and issues like: 'your kid is obese because he's playing video games all day.' And 'your kid should exercise more' . i am sorry but I know her antics.
You have already forgot that you said: "And I know enough to point out many ways in which what you said is disputable and/or imprecise. However, that would be off-topic. But if you want to go there, we certainly can." ?
I wouldn't emphacize central vs generalized obesity. Women carry their weight differently.
Well, if one's idea of exercise is a 15 minutes pitter-pattering and one's definition food includes jam donuts, then exercise won't work. It's like defining wheels as square and engines as steam boilers, and then declaring automobiles to be impossible.
What are you on about?
@Hip
This: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/02/health/biggest-loser-weight-loss.html?_r=0
I gained 100 lbs with onset of disease. Lost 48 over 1.5 years, on 1200 cal/day. Regained 30. Need to go back down again, but hard to get my brain back into it.
I wouldn't emphacize central vs generalized obesity. Women carry their weight differently.
I think many of us would really appreciate a good introductory explanation of Bayesian versus Frequentist statistics, if it is presented in a accessible way, ie, in a brain fog-proof manner...
"Researchers have identified six 'types' of obese person," The Independent reports. It's argued that each type would benefit from a targeted treatment programme for obesity, rather than a "one-size-fits-all" approach.
This study looked at data from more than 4,000 obese adults taking part in the Yorkshire Health Study. It aimed to see whether it was possible to categorise obese individuals according to common health and lifestyle characteristics.
The study reported six clusters of obese individuals. These were:
This research suggests it may be better to recognise subgroups of obesity, rather than put all obese people into one category, which may help tailor interventions and treatments more effectively. The current study does not prove this hypothesis, though it is worth further investigation
- young healthy females – women who were obese, but generally had fewer obesity-related complications, such as type 2 diabetes
- heavy-drinking males – as above, but with higher alcohol intake
- unhappy and anxious middle-aged – predominantly women with poor mental health and wellbeing
- affluent and healthy elderly – generally positive health, but defining characteristics of higher alcohol intake and high blood pressure
- physically sick but happy elderly – older people with more chronic diseases such as osteoarthritis, but good mental health
- poorest health – people who were the most economically deprived and had the greatest number of chronic diseases
Definitely interesting re: gut microbes.That's interesting, @Kati.
Not much indiction though as to the underlying cause of obesity in that research.
One fascinating obesity story was the case of the woman with a Clostridium difficile infection of the gut, who received a fecal transplant from her obese daughter to treat that infection, and then herself also became obese, despite all her efforts to remain at a normal weight:
Fecal transplants may up risk of obesity onset - Scientific American
The assumption is that a virus, bacterium or other microbe(s) transferred from her daughter's gut was the cause of the obesity.
Re: the article I posted, I wanted to make a point that the UK is seriously committed to insert psycho-social twist to biomedical research,
@HowToEscape?
I am just looking at an average person, not an exercise fanatic. For an average person, running 15 minutes each day, or 30 minutes every other day, would be considered engaging in reasonable amount of exercise. UK medical recommendations for exercise are 75 minutes of vigorous aerobic activity like running per week