Cowden Protocol for chronic enteroviral infection?

[HandbrakeOn]

Hi everyone,

I recently tested negative for Lyme but positive for coxsackie and CMV. I have various pathogenic gut bugs (blastocystis hominis, and others) and tested positive for pneunomiae bacterium.

My doc is recommending the Cowden Protocol as a broad brush treatment... however everything I am reading, especially on PR, is suggesting Oxymatrine / Equilibrant is a better path for chronic enteroviral infection... which seems to be one of the main underlying causes of my health issues.

I think I should probably start on Equilibrant to see how I go before committing to the effort and expense of the Cowden Protocol.

Any advice or people with similar experiences of either treatment very gratefully received.

Thanks.

 

[ScottTriGuy]

Fwiw, the Cowden protocol did nothing for me except cost me money.

 

[JES]

Cowden protocol has no evidence to be of any help against chronic enteroviral infections. Naturally it might help to eliminate bacterial co-infections if you have those, but the herbs that Cowden uses have no meaningful direct anti-enterovirus effects, at least not in vivo.

 

[MartinK]

Hi @HandbrakeOn !
Im on Cowden for 3 month (go full support program) but what I saw and read - its great for Lyme and some bacterial co-infections (JES write about it) and great for detox in full range.
I think its too early to say some verdict in my cause with Cowden, but I felt two big reactions (one ends in hospital with vomiting)

I combine Cowden with HBOT and with gut/SIBO treatment.

some symptoms have definitely improved - I have almost none PEM now, little bit more energy, no brain fog, better mood...only OI is still crazy, maybe worse.

I think, for some cases will be Cowden great and better for body than atbx.

Martin

 

[Aubry]

I cannot tolerate the Cowden herbals. Dno why

 

[bertiedog]

I did take them for a long time and I think they helped to get rid of some yeasts and also other bacteria because I did improve. However it was a very expensive protocol and I wouldn't spend money on it again. I would stick to Stephen Buhner recommendations because they are a lot cheaper.

Pam

 

[perrier]

Fwiw, the Cowden protocol did nothing for me except cost me money.

same on this end, and lots of monstrous side effects

 

[HandbrakeOn]

Thanks everyone. Really useful to hear your thoughts and experiences.

My sense is that given I don't have Lyme, the Cowden Protocol could provide some overall system support / antibiotic support against things like pneunomiae bacterium, any other co-infections, and general detox/immune support but if my initial focus is enteroviruses then my doc is potentially pointing me in the wrong direction and I should be looking at Oxymatrine / Equilibrant and other antiviral treatment options.

 

[Louie]

Cowden Protocol is problematic as they are just herbs with some slight alterations to produce a product no one else sells and it is then grossly over-priced. To top it off the slight alterations have no scientific backing to support the changes. Follow Stephen Buhner's books as a cheaper and more effective approach.

 

[Starlight]

I did take them for a long time and I think they helped to get rid of some yeasts and also other bacteria because I did improve. However it was a very expensive protocol and I wouldn't spend money on it again. I would stick to Stephen Buhner recommendations because they are a lot cheaper.

Pam

I have been reading old posts on cp. I was reading some from 2015 and am wondering if you have kept the improvements you had made at that time. After a long time on antibiotics for Lyme and confections I'm as bad as ever, housebound often bed. How did you make the transition from Cowden to Buhner. Were you in a reason able place when starting Buhner. Did you just use the books. Would love some improvement.,as we all would. Thanks hope you are in a good place.

 

[Louie]

Just read Buhner's latest book - common sense approach well explained.