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Countess to Lord O'Shaughnessy: What are the recovery rates for ME patients with IAPT programme?

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  1. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl Senior Member

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    [​IMG]The Countess of MarDeputy Chairman of Committees, Deputy Speaker (Lords)
    To ask Her Majesty's Government what are the recovery rates of patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis who have received treatment under the Improving Access to Psychological Therapies programme.
    [​IMG]Lord O'ShaughnessyThe Parliamentary Under-Secretary for Health and Social Care

    This information is not available. :bang-head::wide-eyed::angel:

    Does this answer the above question? :D:D:D:D:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::whistle::rofl:
    Yes0 people think so

    You don' t say??? :D:D:rolleyes::rofl::zippit::ill::aghhh::depressed::wide-eyed::woot:

    How many millions is this psych programme costing the UK, Lord O'Shaughnessy :angel:?

    AND no evidence of any success? Really???:confused:

    WHY are you rolling out this dodgy programme across the UK then if you have no statistics to support its efficacy? It wouldn't be because it is merely cost effective to ensure all ME patients are diverted from the medical pathway so they are deprived of the limited medical support they have, would it??:rolleyes::whistle:
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  2. alex3619

    alex3619 Senior Member

    Logan, Queensland, Australia
    We need to be watchful about how they define recovery. Recovery thresholds that are worse than starting capacity, like in PACE, is not recovery. If recovered they will have regained fitness, and regained capacity to look after themselves, look after others, and work or study. Slight subjective improvement not backed by objective evidence of a major restoration of capacity is not recovery.
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  3. lilpink

    lilpink Senior Member

    see also #757 on this thread -


    for the reason why I

    "suspect that at least some information regarding the recovery rates for ME patients is available or it would require very little effort to obtain it.

    I wonder if there are any means by which the Countess of Mar could challenge this answer…..or would that be contrary to Parliamentary etiquette/protocol? "
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