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brian nicholson detained in psyschiatric unit with me cfs for 3 years

bohemian

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Hi - they wont tAke me off clozapine. Worst condition for many many yrs.

There is a book titled the life threatening effects of antisychotics.

Also the endocrine disruption theory of schizophrenia.

Anither book is the usepa guidelines for neurotoxicity risk assessment used in my line of work in human health risk assessment of chemicals.

It states i believe that the neurological examinstion by a doctor is a load of rubbish.

Anyone had ideas of antipsychotics in the environment.

I pray for better days ahead.
 

Eastman

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@bohemian

As adambeyoncelowe suggested, I think you need an advocate, or at least a spokesperson who can take responsibility for your care and speak up on your behalf with your doctors and other medical personnel.

At this point, I suspect your current doctors are not giving your opinion much weight because they think you are psychotic and don't trust your judgement nor your ability to care for yourself should you go off antipsychotics.

Having a spokesperson/caregiver with you serves a double purpose: it relieves the doctors of sole responsibility for keeping you out of trouble should you go off antipsychotics while also keeping them on their toes as there is now someone who can more credibly complain against them should their treatment be perceived as inadequate.
 

bohemian

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When does use of antipsychotics become pharmacological torture esp when you become rigid and stiff.

Also the glycine antibody issue around body and pem. Does anyone know any specialists in this issue. It can result in dysautonomia failure.

I have severe pots and pain.

They wanted to doubke clozapene because im distressed.

Thanks for help
 

bohemian

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Hi stil being given clozapene. Need advice. Had blood tests cr protein 27 and hgh white cells nuetraphils hgh. RBC HIGh. I was told to go to hosp if i was sick due to inflammatory high.any ideas. Thank you.

I also wish to inform you. I called gov about mx sittation a yr ago+and i was tojd my situation had gone to far. I couldnt get help.
 

bohemian

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Everybody heard of mus. Medically unexplained symptoms. I came across functional neurological disorder. Anyone heard of fnd.
 

Countrygirl

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Everybody heard of mus. Medically unexplained symptoms. I came across functional neurological disorder. Anyone heard of fnd.

Hello Brian,

FND is another name for a MUS and it is the label being given to people with ME by doctors who don't know what page they're at.

I saw a training video for doctors and they were told to mislead the patients by convincing them that they 'believed' that their symptoms were 'real'......i.e.real to them, but ........~*wink, wink*.....the clever doctor, of course, knows they don't really exist anywhere but in their patient's mind......................The video ended by the doctor saying that by giving the patient a medical-sounding name of FND that it should protect the doctor from the bloody nose the hysterical patient would give them if he/she told them their medical 'diagnosis'. In other words, it is a modern label for hysteria.

I have heard a number of ME patients now who have been labeled with FND say they are so relieved that their doctors believe them at last. They have been deceived.
 
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Couldn't read all 8 Pages, but i have fit one question?

How couldn't they force hin into Psychiatry in The First Place?
In Austria You can only bei forced into Psychiatry If You a harm for yourself or Others with a mental health issued Background.
 

bohemian

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Response: couldn't eat much...low sodium lost weight..below bmi.pots unrecognised.... They say couldn't look after myself...danger to myself....They just keep giving me antipsychotics as they put above due to schizophrenia I.e clinical negligence....I.e lack of energy due to schizophrenia.

Said I was a hypochondriac delusional psychosomatic worried about illness...etc

There isn't a plausible reason why they give me bp damaging drugs.

There is miserable info about the abuse.

Trapped by psychiatry .
 

bohemian

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A paper of interest from a.zeman

"Neurological syndromes which can be mistaken for psychiatric conditions".

Prof of neurology and cognitive neurology.
 
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Hello Brian,

FND is another name for a MUS and it is the label being given to people with ME by doctors who don't know what page they're at.

I saw a training video for doctors and they were told to mislead the patients by convincing them that they 'believed' that their symptoms were 'real'......i.e.real to them, but ........~*wink, wink*.....the clever doctor, of course, knows they don't really exist anywhere but in their patient's mind......................The video ended by the doctor saying that by giving the patient a medical-sounding name of FND that it should protect the doctor from the bloody nose the hysterical patient would give them if he/she told them their medical 'diagnosis'. In other words, it is a modern label for hysteria.

I have heard a number of ME patients now who have been labeled with FND say they are so relieved that their doctors believe them at last. They have been deceived.

Oh No! This has just happened to me after a neuro consult. He latched onto my very historic life event depression immediately which made me suspicious. I have a clear classic ME diagnosis. And my symptoms match precisely with the after effects of viral meningitis. However do I counter this damaging label with recent evidence? I will never be treated seriously again by clinicians!
 

Research 1st

Severe ME, POTS & MCAS.
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Couldn't read all 8 Pages, but i have fit one question?

How couldn't they force hin into Psychiatry in The First Place?
In Austria You can only bei forced into Psychiatry If You a harm for yourself or Others with a mental health issued Background.

Easy my friend, it's called living in the Marxist UK not an awesome country like Austria.

This is how.:

1. ME CFS is researched as psych in UK. British Oxford criteria F48.0 CFS is psych as psychiatrists in denial of G93.3 organic ME CFS created it. So, the treatment is psych because treatment must be research based. See what they did there? No one defined ME as mental, it's just treated as such.

2. Even if you are wealthy and avoid all state run NHS hospitals, the UK Emergency Room ER (A&E) are only allowed to be state run, so no alternative. This is risky as ME CFS patients tend to have cardiac, breathing and other episodic emergencies. The state run ER doctors also believe ME CFS is mental and worse, some believe POTS is too as the UK keep diagnosing deconditioning POTS subset as POTS. More usually, ER doctors don't even know what POTS is, and mistake it for anxiety attacks and refuse to refer for a TILT test.

3. Capture severe grade (wheelchair or bedridden) ME, CFS, Lyme patient in ER, even without mental health diagnosis or history. E.g. don't send them home when safe, give them a little present....yes this happened to me after I had a serious cardiac emergency.

4. Don't refer to cardiology for more tests. Refer stabilised ME CFS patient to neuro ward under the care of a psychiatrist or neurologist consultant allied to psychiatric colleagues of the British 'Wessely School'. Patient agrees, not being informed of this. Patient is too ill to think straight and can barely talk.

5. If patient doesn't agree, threaten them with immediate discharge, thrown out the ward miles from home, too ill to use a car or train home. Refuse ambulance transport too. This way, the ME CFS patient agrees If they are bed ridden and cannot sit upright or walk - like what happened to me. So I was blackmailed and also tricked as I was young and trusted doctors in a 'specialist' neurological hospital.

6. All tests for other neuro disease come back negative. As they believe ME is CFS and CFS is a fear of activity and Somatization disorder, this enables them to refer to psych ward to eradicate the belief in 'ME' once and for all.

7. TILT positive for POTS? Still claim deconditioning POTS is the reason, not pure POTS. In other words, fear of exercise is causing POTS, and this is only due to belief in ME CFS. Now they can torture the patient because the patient can't run away as they're too ill to leave - trapped.

8. In psych ward even with no mental health history or diagnosis, then induce anxiety disorder to create a mental disorder:

Lock door - patient can't leave
Ban visitors - patient can't beg for help.
Keep access to phone restricted.
Monitor patient talking (stand in room).
Claim patient abused at school (lie).
Claim patients mother believes ME is real mother can be banned too and anyone else like a boyfriend or girlfriend.
Stop all nurses taking blood pressure, pulse rate, temperature.
Stop all access to doctor to discuss medical problems.
Don't give bedridden patient food or water - they can walk for it.
Don't give patient medication in bed - they can walk for it.
Don't push patient to toilet, they can soil the bed and sleep in it.

Don't wash the patient, they can smell.

Refuse referal to any medical specialist such as cardiologist meaning ignore chest pain or breathing muscle weakness attacks

Don't take blood tests.

Make sure any medical consultations are not at the patients bed side but an area infront of many doctors not one to one. This way, the patient is more humiliated and embarrassed.

Terrify the patient by taking them outside in the noise and light of central London traffic. Make sue an unqualified person does this with no training, no medications so it causes the highest possible stress (aversion therapy).

After weeks of this abuse, if the patient finally agrees to engage in CBT GET but relapses (of course) then the ME CFS patient is blamed and discharged as a total failure. The diagnosis of POTS is deleted and replaced with hysteria (conversion disorder), Somatization, or functional symptoms.

Once back home the ME CFS patient with POTS either months or years later either commits suicide or develops PTSD or another psych disorder such as depression or agorophobia, so now the hospital who abused you can claim it was mental all along. Or they end up typing into a text box like this as a form of therapy....

Job done and remember, once you have your ME CFS diagnosis changed in the UK by the state, nothing you say will be believed so the people who abused you, get away with it, as you have no evidence. It's your word against theirs. Also in the community you'll now have even worse problems getting access to state run medical care, if stuck at home or in bed and you need state run doctors to do home visits.

This can and does happen in the UK and other countries when you have POTS secondary to ME CFS or ME CFS. It happens to both when the patient is usually bedridden and can't leave once they kidnap you (break your door down by force - this happened to poor Sophia Mirza who later died) or by tricking you into their wards on the grounds of making sure you have no other choice but to stop resisting.
 
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