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Discussion in 'Hormones' started by alice111, Aug 10, 2014.

  1. alice111

    alice111 Senior Member

    Hi Ladies,
    I am wondering if anyone here has had any success with birth control?? specifically with the PMS/PMDD side of things..
    My hormones are a mess, and pretty much after day 21 I am a mess. My cycles vary from 40 - 70 days.. so thats a long time to be in hell. I have tried so many things.. bioidentical, herbs, hormone testing, blah blah blah. at this point im pretty desperate and considering going on birth control hoping that might just smooth things out. I would love to hear from you and what your experiences were.. and if you had success which brand did you use??
    thank yooooouuuu!
  2. minkeygirl

    minkeygirl But I Look So Good.

    Left Coast
    I was on birth control for years pre ME. They saved me from horrific cramps, migraines and headaches.

    A few years back I went to a guy who does BHRT since I'm post menopausal and have zero libido. I had 3 hours of bliss when they were balanced but I had a bad reaction to one of the estrogens and things happened and I never got back around to it. But I am going to. You really need someone who knows what they are doing with BHRT

    I started using OTC progesterone because even though I have no hormones, I'm still estrogen dominant. Without the progesterone I get very nauseated and headaches.

    Some will say not to use chemicals in BC but if you can get some relief from it I say do it. It made a huge difference in my life.

    This guy was the pioneer in using OTC progesterone.
  3. RML

    RML Senior Member

    Sorry what is PMDD?

    Well, I am using cerzette, mainly for my migraines, which were mentural/hormonal linked. I also had hellish periods, but they got little attention as migraines were the biggie issue.
    This hormonal pill has been a miracle cure almost, and I wish I tried it long before, and would have saved me 10-15yrs of hell and lots of sick days from work , uni, school etc. I was losing one week of every month, and I think in the end took a great toll on my health over the years.

    Ironically, after years of trying everything and anything else possible, around the time I got my migraines and periods sorted, coincided with me getting M.E/Lyme. So solved one problem, but another to deal with it!
  4. alice111

    alice111 Senior Member

    @RML PMDD.. is just very very bad PMS - check it out

    my symptoms that are the worst and I am desperate to solve are more on the psychological side.. not so much cramps or migraines. I dont know if this makes a difference, in terms of cerzette helping me.. sounds like your symptoms were more physical? cerzette is a Progesterone only pill
  5. SeaShell

    SeaShell Senior Member

    @alice111 I took birth control pills for several years due to endometriosis and PMS hell and more. The pills made a huge difference to the quality of life in terms of getting cycles regular, lowering the pain and PMS issues. I ended up with the pills after I had tried all other options like herbs and homeopathy.

    Once I started on the pill I didn't want to get off it as I was terrified of what would happen. When I finally managed to get off, I think it was too much for my body to handle and it aggravated the ME. I wish there had been other options rather than going on the pill.

    You say you have tried other options and I know what that is like and how desperate one can get for relief from the hell. But have you checked everything? Have you looked at Chinese Medicine? There are some other supplements like Calcium d'Glucarate, indole-3-carbinol that help balance hormones. Have you checked homeopathy?
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  6. taniaaust1

    taniaaust1 Senior Member

    Sth Australia
    Hi Alice, I used to have very severe PMDD (to the point I'd end up in hospital the day before my period sucidal or get into trouble with the police). It used to give me very severe mood swings. Hearing about your issue and what your cycle is, I think you may have similar issues to what I had.

    Firstly your 40-70 day cycle is very likely to be polycystic ovulation syndrome (PCOS), have this investigated (you'll need your ovaries scanned to see if you have multiple egg folicles developed). Usually in PCOS people have issues with too much testosterone, in ME though this drops testosterone for many of us a ME person with PCOS may not show the testosterone symptoms of PCOS. (In PCOS the ratios of LH and FSH may be reversed so a good specialist should be still able to tell that you have PCOS even if the ME has screwed up some of the things of it).

    What caused my PMDD was the fact that my PCOS had given me issues with insulin and I get severe reactions to having high insulin (maybe due to that I also have MCS??). 80-90% of those who have PCOS have insulin resistance or diabetes by the time they are 40 years old. (I need a lower in carbs then a diabetic diet for my issues and this diet has now got my PMDD in control so it doesnt happen now to me every month).

    Anyway, I think you need to do a few things.
    re your periods See someone who has a special interest in PCOS to have it ruled in or out for you eg a gynocologist

    . If you do have this like I think you may do, then you a 2hr Glucose tollerance test done with the insulin included. (Some places screw up these tests as they need to be transported from whenever the blood is taken to the lab on ice, centifuged and ice transported). Be aware that my specialist for all this has actually treated some so called ME/CFS patients as it turned out their whole issue wasjust insulin problems. This he calls the pandoras box of illnesses as it can cause so many different symptoms (and it certainly was making my ME worst).

    Something that did help my PMDD was 1200mg of calicum a day. I had to thou take it daily for several months before it worked thou.


    As far as treating the PMDD by birth control. I did try that. A doctor put me onto Lovan (an SSRI) drug in just the last half of my monthly cycle. Turned out thou I couldnt take the Lovan. I tend to respond badly to all SSRIs.
  7. harveykelley


    An old girlfriend of mine used to take it, but stopped because it made her too out of it most of the time.
  8. Ninan

    Ninan Senior Member

    The pills (Yaz) just made my PMDD way (way) worse. Try taking SSRI during the worst days if you can tolerate it. The effect comes after a few hours, ask your doctor. Eating low carb helps me a lot too.

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