Are there supplements or non medication techniques to raise BP?

[Valentijn]

@ebethc - Strattera is an NRI, so theoretically would only increase norepinephrine activity. And from what I recall, Yohimbe allows more norepinephrine to be released, so also shouldn't be directly acting on epinephrine.

I don't know if either of them would help if norepinephrine is already normal. Mine tested low repeatedly, and I think it has for some other people who were helped by those as well.

 

[ebethc]

@ebethc - Strattera is an NRI, so theoretically would only increase norepinephrine activity. And from what I recall, Yohimbe allows more norepinephrine to be released, so also shouldn't be directly acting on epinephrine.

I don't know if either of them would help if norepinephrine is already normal. Mine tested low repeatedly, and I think it has for some other people who were helped by those as well.

It looks like N.E. turns into Epi, so maybe too much N.E. isn't good if you have too much epi (at least from this explanation)
http://lwtinternational.com/cofacto...the-missing-link-for-a-healthy-mind-and-body/

how do you get more acetylcholine? any ideas?

thanks

 

[Valentijn]

It looks like N.E. turns into Epi, so maybe too much N.E. isn't good if you have too much epi (at least from this explanation)

They don't create norepinephrine. My understanding is that an NRI keeps it trapped at synapses or similar, so smaller amounts can be more effective. And Yohimbe should be repressing expression of a gene which is involved with the release of norepinephrine, not in the production of it. So with norepinephrine not being raised, epinephrine also shouldn't be raised.

 

[brenda]

I was reading recently, that uric acid levels control blood pressure. My uric acid and bp are high so I am trying to lower both. Are your UA levels high? I have just cut out cauliflower because it is high in uric acid. Perhaps eating foods that are high will help?

http://www.rheumatology.org/about/newsroom/2010/2010_high_levels_uric_acid_high_blood_pressure.asp

 

[WillowJ]

It is almost 1 pm here and I haven't eaten or drank anything yet (except water to take meds) and I just don't know how to force myself to do it when I feel this bad. It's like I am just trying to get enough air and can't swallow anything else! By evening when I have drank 6-8 cups I do feel better so logically I need to do this but can't figure out a way. I know it must sound ridiculous.

I actually have a similar issue. I think I might still have mild gastritis (my only guess).

If I can't face my vitalyte or water, I can often manage red tea (rooibos), peppermint tea, lemon tea (mine has lemongrass, rosehips, hibiscus flowers...).... you probably have your own no-caffeine favorites.

Some how it finally got into my head how important this is and I have been drinking at least 8 glasses per day and now sometimes 9-10 glasses

Later in the thread you solved this! yay!!!
I will leave my notes in case others struggle as well; it might be helpful to someone else.

I am back up to 7 cups per day, but it is still hard.

 

[kisekishiawase]

Maybe its the betablocker lower the bp? But i know its a dilemma.

I wonder and wanna search which bb lowers hr most but bp the less. Also thinking to yry ivabradine.

I have to take bb but then bp is at stake and theres no midodrine in my country. I think its only available in US?
Cant use much salt to due to cortisol
I hate my weird body condition.

You mention about licorice is it DGL? Its usually for stomach
I think there are still some that didnt get removed just pure licorice. Iherb got licorice root. But doesnt it will cause tachy?

Usually the increase activation of beta receptor will increase hr too ? And its also connected to cortisol. Licorice also increase cortisol and tachycardia thats why i dont think i can take it.
I take DGL for GERD.

 

[kisekishiawase]

I was reading recently, that uric acid levels control blood pressure. My uric acid and bp are high so I am trying to lower both. Are your UA levels high? I have just cut out cauliflower because it is high in uric acid. Perhaps eating foods that are high will help?

http://www.rheumatology.org/about/newsroom/2010/2010_high_levels_uric_acid_high_blood_pressure.asp

I dont have low uric acid also my mom but we both have low bp. I also ate lots of cauliflower before but it didnt help so im not sure if its working

 

[kangaSue]

If it's no problem for you to lay flat, a simple measure you could try to raise your blood pressure is to sleep without a pillow for a while as it tends to reset the baroreceptors.

Tomato juice is said to aid in raising blood pressure, because of its salt content I think, so you could substitute that for part of your daily fluid intake.

The hydrotherapy suggestion is interesting. It is generally suggested to finish off with a cold shower in hydrotherapy, coincidently, this is a way to increase glutathione big time so perhaps supplementing that would be beneficial too.

http://www.cold-showers.com/increase-glutathione-levels/
There is another manual therapy involving alternation of vasodilation and vasoconstriction that you can do at home which might be able to raise b p called Ischemic preconditioning or Ischemic postconditioning.

To do this needs a manual b p machine and involves inflating and deflating the blood pressure cuff, which can be around the upper arm or upper thigh, to no more than 50 mm Hg above normal systolic, for 3 repetitions of five minutes on, five minutes off. Ischemic pre or postconditioning has been proven to be safe as well as being able to condition other muscle prone to ischemic insult remote from the cuff site, i.e. skeletal muscle. Done after exertion, this could be a preventative for PEM also.

http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/112/14/2085.full
http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/1347963
http://jn.physiology.org/content/early/2015/03/27/jn.01028.2014
http://circres.ahajournals.org/content/88/8/802.full.pdf

I can't find anything conclusive to say this will raise b p but this stimulates the same pathway response as for nicorandil (and some of the other potassium channel openers, ie diazoxide, cromakalim, pinacidil) and the organic nitrates (GTN, isosorbide etc), that is opening ATP sensitive potassium channels generally, but mitochondrial KATP channel particularly. I think this is the mechanism that raises my b p using nicorandil, the opposite of medical opinion that it will lower the b p. This is basically the drug effect without actually using the actual drug.

Further benefit might be gained from improving muscle function as dysfunction in the KATP channel is prevalent in skeletal muscles suffering from fatigue. This was what I meant to imply when I first suggested nicorandil as a possible benefit in treating ME/CFS. If that can be done without drugs, better still.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3125986/

 

[Misfit Toy]

My BP is also really low. It's usually 90/54. But, I don't have POTS. That's odd, isn't it?

I used to be able to take Cortef, but now it makes me nuts.

After the surgery, my BP shot up to 100/60. I was so thrilled, but then I found out from my doc, it was happening due to pain.