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Anyone tried: Stephen Buhner's "LB Core"??

Rrrr

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Has anyone tried Stephen Buhner's LB Core, either the capsules or the tincture? It is for lyme, which I have seen sometimes on test results with Igenex and not other times. But Igenex apparently has a more advanced test now, so I did it and it said I have lyme. My doctor suggested LB Core. Has anyone tried it?

Tincture
http://greendragonbotanicals.com/products/lyme-protocols/childrens-liquid-lb-core-protocol.html

Capsules
http://greendragonbotanicals.com/products/lyme-protocols/lb-tonic-protocol.html

I am also looking for someone who would want to split the capsules with me.

By the way, Stephen Buhner is a world-renowned herbalist with books out about lyme and also herbal antivirals.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EEM7WDS/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
 

Hip

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It is for lyme, which I have seen sometimes on test results with Igenex and not other times. But Igenex apparently has a more advanced test now, so I did it and it said I have lyme.

ArminLabs seems to find almost everyone positive for Lyme, even perfectly healthy people; see the thread: Documentary: Undercover in German Lyme Clinics, where a group of healthy journalists sent their blood samples to ArminLabs, and they all came out positive.

IGenex appears to be another one of those labs that finds far too many people positive. We really need a group of healthy journalists sent their blood samples to IGenex as well.
 

Hip

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Far too many? How so? Please elaborate.

Dr Chia said all those positive results from IGenex were "bullshit", as I have pointed out before.

We need some healthy investigative journalists to send their blood samples to IGenex, to see if they too all come back as positive like they did with ArminLabs. Perhaps you might want to write to a good newspaper and explain about these dubious Lyme tests that may be conning patients, and suggest that they perform such an investigation.
 

duncan

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Dr Chia said all those positive results from IGenex were "bullshit", as I have pointed out before.
Dr Chia the ME/CFS doctor made pronouncements about Lyme diagnostics. :)

We need some healthy investigative journalists to send their blood samples to IGenex, to see if they too all come back as positive like they did with ArminLabs.
Two different diagnostic mechanisms. Apples and oranges.

Any patient who thinks she might have been exposed to Lyme, regardless of whether they have been diagnosed with ME/CFS, may wish to explore how TBD diagnoses - including Bb - are made. It's time consuming, but it may prove helpful in the end.
 

CCC

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There are two other groups that will be more likely to help you:
Both have lots of good advice about treating Lyme and coinfections, but the Healing Lyme forum is more pragmatic about whether to use herbs or antibiotics or anything else. Both care more about you getting better than grandstanding about an approach.

My suggestion is to try those Green Dragon herbs and see how you go - we've not tried them because it was too hard to ship to Australia. I wouldn't mind having another try, though. A word of advice, though. Don't start with the full dose. If you do have Lyme, you could end up with the herbs doing too much too quickly and leave you feeling worse.

Has anyone tried Stephen Buhner's LB Core, either the capsules or the tincture? It is for lyme, which I have seen sometimes on test results with Igenex and not other times. But Igenex apparently has a more advanced test now, so I did it and it said I have lyme. My doctor suggested LB Core. Has anyone tried it?

Tincture
http://greendragonbotanicals.com/products/lyme-protocols/childrens-liquid-lb-core-protocol.html

Capsules
http://greendragonbotanicals.com/products/lyme-protocols/lb-tonic-protocol.html

I am also looking for someone who would want to split the capsules with me.

By the way, Stephen Buhner is a world-renowned herbalist with books out about lyme and also herbal antivirals.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EEM7WDS/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1
 

CCC

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Dr Chia the ME/CFS doctor made pronouncements about Lyme diagnostics. :)


Two different diagnostic mechanisms. Apples and oranges.

Any patient who thinks she might have been exposed to Lyme, regardless of whether they have been diagnosed with ME/CFS, may wish to explore how TBD diagnoses - including Bb - are made. It's time consuming, but it may prove helpful in the end.
What is TBD?
 

Wayne

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What is TBD?

Acronyms and abbreviations used on this forum with no explanation of what they stand for are incredibly frustrating for me. I know the writer is familiar with what the letters stands for, but to be on the safe side, you have to assume many readers don't. Especially readers on this PR forum who are forever trying to navigate through a thick soup of brain fog. Please--to all those who use various abbreviations and acronyms without spelling out what it stands for--take a moment to do so. -- Thank you! :angel: