Has anyone taken LSD or MDMA while having ME/CFS?

[desertangel]

Does anyone know if these drugs have interactions with valganciclovir (Valcyte), low dose naltrexone, or midodrine? Or, does anyone know if there are resources where I can find this out?

Please don't tell me to not do it. I am aware that these can both cause crashes. I'm looking for information on whether or not it's safe given the other drugs that ME/CFS patients have to take.

I know LSD and MDMA are relatively safe for a healthy person if used in moderation. The other drugs relevant are levothyroxine and liothyronine, hydrocortisol, but these are drugs the body produces naturally so they shouldn't have an impact.

 

[InitialConditions]

I took some MD a few weekends ago - the first time since my diagnosis and possibly the first time since my first symptoms in 2012.

I had asked a friend of a friend to source some precisely because I wanted to know how the experience would be now that I consider myself ill. It wa sa good experience and as I remembered from infrequent use around 8/9 years ago. I slept only 2/3 hours but the following day felt ok. In fact as many here can probably relate, sometimes having very little sleep can have a drastic positive affect on symptoms; I've noticed this on several occasions. It was nice to wake up feeling still a little high and without the horrible groggy feeling and pain I get most mornings. Of course, the lack of sleep comes back to haunt you, but really I would say give it a go.

 

[InitialConditions]

what i would say is if you take either of the compounds, do so in a positive environment, perhaps with friends - especially if you have anxiety / health anxiety.

 

[hmnr asg]

Sorry this doesnt answer your question but its a little related.
I had a ketamine infusion which was pretty dramatic and gave me a serious trip. It made me completely forget i had CFS for two days but then it all came back.
Also i spoke to a person on reddit/cfs who told me he tried psilocybin mushrooms and it just made him a little worse at the typical dose. He now does microdosing which he says has helped his mood but no effect on CFS.

H

 

[desertangel]

Sorry this doesnt answer your question but its a little related.
I had a ketamine infusion which was pretty dramatic and gave me a serious trip. It made me completely forget i had CFS for two days but then it all came back.
Also i spoke to a person on reddit/cfs who told me he tried psilocybin mushrooms and it just made him a little worse at the typical dose. He now does microdosing which he says has helped his mood but no effect on CFS.

H

woah, that's really cool. thanks for your advice. do you mind if i ask what you were getting a ketamine infusion for? was this for medical reasons? if not, how did you get it?

@InitialConditions, thank you. are you taking any of the above medications? i am worried about how either of them might interact with valcyte/midodrine.

 

[hmnr asg]

@desertangel I was given a ketamine infusion as part of a clinical trial to test it for OCD.
You can read more about my ketamine experience here: https://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/ketamine-injection.47816/

I really want to try it again, but here in california you need to pay top dollar to have a ketamine infusion. More than 1k.

 

[TiredBill]

MDMA will blow out your serotonin receptors. It is anything but "safe."

Bill

 

[InitialConditions]

woah, that's really cool. thanks for your advice. do you mind if i ask what you were getting a ketamine infusion for? was this for medical reasons? if not, how did you get it?

@InitialConditions, thank you. are you taking any of the above medications? i am worried about how either of them might interact with valcyte/midodrine.

no - i'm on no medication, so I wouldn't know about interactions.