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With dairy butter @ebethc you could be looking at a casein reaction.
For some people it is like a gluten sensitivity.
I dont eat any dairy milk products because it causes my other allergies to flare up, but its not the lipids. I can eat pure veg oil mayo all day (high quality mind you with minimal preservative etc) and no regrets.
The literature typically discusses sudden or slow onset. Many of us relate to a concept of staged onset. After each insult we are worse and never regain the former level prior to that insult.The idea of this being some sort of metabolic trap that clenches harder with each crash certainly makes a lot of a sense for me.
Butter is a source high in arachidonic acid, a proinflammatory hormone precursor. How do you react to organ meats? They are even higher. I use this as an excuse to not eat liver, my Kryptonite.heavy butter is never okay... I think it's the fat that's the bigger problem
Butter is a source high in arachidonic acid, a proinflammatory hormone precursor. How do you react to organ meats? They are even higher. I use this as an excuse to not eat liver, my Kryptonite.
Alcohol releases free arachidonic acid. Free arachidonic acid inevitably is metabolised into eicosanoids. Its very likely this is the primary mechanism for alcohol poisoning, and why PWME have such an issue with alcohol. .
Alcohol can deplete you of arachidonic acid, which in some cases might be a good thing. Or its something else. We definitely do not have all the answers, especially for subgroups.Just want to comment on this, because not insignificant part of pwME in fact feel better with alcohol, there is a thread about it on PR.
I am one of them and alcohol makes all my symptoms better, especially when I am already sobering and the next day..
I would have to investigate this to find out, it most definitely will depend on the type of cheese, but I think cheese, from memory, is generally lower in arachidonic acid.Is cheese high in arachidonic acid?
Alcohol can deplete you of arachidonic acid, which in some cases might be a good thing. Or its something else. We definitely do not have all the answers, especially for subgroups.
i didn't even know dairy butter has much casein in it i thought it was mostly just fat.With dairy butter @ebethc you could be looking at a casein reaction.
For some people it is like a gluten sensitivity.
I dont eat any dairy milk products because it causes my other allergies to flare up, but its not the lipids. I can eat pure veg oil mayo all day (high quality mind you with minimal preservative etc) and no regrets.
Butter is a source high in arachidonic acid, a proinflammatory hormone precursor. How do you react to organ meats? They are even higher. I use this as an excuse to not eat liver, my Kryptonite.
i didn't even know dairy butter has much casein in it i thought it was mostly just fat.
my fatigue sky rockets whenever I have bowel upsets