I've had this information just sitting around for a while so decided to post it even though I'm not done. I planned to do 7 flushes but have only done two. Hopefully I will get around to it. I have been side tracked by other organs that need attention.
While I was doing this flush, I realized I had Hepatic Steatosis which I was able to cure quickly. Here is a link.
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...-type-2-diabetes-mitochondrial-disease.51786/
My goal with this post is to bring together a lot of scattered information on internet regarding gallbladder/liver flushes. You won't find anything like this on the internet. I also want to demystify and simplify the presentation of the information. The other goal is to save your gallbladder from ever being removed. So here goes.
There are many other liver / gallbladder flushes from around the world but I know nothing about them.
I found this interesting link on stool color
# Stool color will tell you if liver or gallbladder is problem
http://drdnaturopath.com/gallbladder-bile-deficiency-and-high-cholesterol/
=====================================================================
IN A NUTSHELL - here is an example of what I did do
=====================================================================
PHASE 1 Day 1-4 to soften stones
---------------------------------------------------------------------
My daily ritual for 4Xday for 4 days was while stomach empty ...
I poured out one cup of juice. Swallowed 500mg malic acid (you can add more) with sip of juice.
I added 50 drops of phosphoric acid in juice and drank with straw
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water
=====================================================================
=====================================================================
PHASE 2 Day 5 to PURGE COLON (and relax bile duct), FLUSH STONES OUT
my objective was to do flush 10 hours after waking up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Continue Phase 1 ritual thru 5th day
Stop eating 9 hours before flush
PURGE/RELAX
4 hours after after last eating and before flush, take 1-2 tablespoon epsom salt in glass of water (after epsom salt dissolved i put ice cubes in it to cool it)
2-3 hours later, drink epsom salt again
FLUSH
2 hours later begin FLUSH
Wait a minimum of 4-10 hours after last meal of day before doing flush
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DRINK THIS
6 ounces of olive oil (what forces the liver to spasm and force stones out)
1-2 lemons or large fresh grapefruit (improves taste)
Combine all ingredients in a quart jar; shake well and drink it down relatively quickly.
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
Lie on right side (with pillow under right hip) and bring right knee as close to chest as possible for at least 30 minutes (time is mandatory)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
YOUR DONE so do anything you want
Stay near bathroom in case you need to go
************************************************************************
The purpose of this section is to give you a birds eye view of what's
out there and circumvent information overload which can be overwhelming.
This is a synopsis of what my research has compiled on flushing the liver/gallbladder of sludge, gravel and stones. The first phase of a flush is softening the stones. The second phase is flushing.
************************************************************************
===========================================================
DURING MEALS (OPTIONAL-This is what I added so you can skip it)
I wanted to help clean my bile of sludge to stop any new formations
and help break down things more naturally
------------------------------------------------------------
General Liver/Gallbladder formula – one capsule / day
SILIPHOS is silybin attached to phospholipid choline which is at least 10X or more absorbable than regular milk thistle. Therapeutic dose in research is 5 mg / kg. (THIS IS WHAT I USE)
TUDCA is an UDCA that is the active component of Ox Bile. It increases flow and detoxes – 13.5 mg / kg is ideal dosage (THIS IS WHAT I'D USE IF SILIPHOS DIDN'T EXIST)
Bile salts / Ox bile – experiment with dosage
Beet Root (for a vegetarian)
Ox Bile increases/adds bile. It gets converted to UDCA thru gut bacteria.
Ox Bile may help to prevent against formation of stones along with dissolving of gallstones
D-limonene is one of the most common monoterpenes in nature.
Milk Thistle and Dandelion will increase bile production
============================================================
HERE IS SOME BASIC INFO
************************************************************************
FIRST PHASE Take on empty stomach except where noted. Wait 30 minutes.
Options to help break or dissolve stones in liver/gallbladder
Some people skip phase one and are successful but the stones probably already soft.
************************************************************************
Targets/Soften (most common) cholesterol stones
You won't find this list anywhere on internet
************************************************************************
Gold Coin Grass (Jin Qian Cao) - breaks up bundled stones
Malic Acid - Soften stones
Phosphoric Acid (i took with mallic acid capsules)
TUDCA (take right after meal)
Rowachol (monoterpene) Used in Europe. German formula. 1st ingredient is pinene
D-Limonene (monoterpene, take with meal)
???Pure Gum Turpentine (no reports on this) this is a pinene also
Chinese Bitters This will help bile production and flow. Note that Swedish Bitters have a different purpose and not the one to get.
Curcumin helps with contraction of GallBladder
************************************************************************
Targets calcified/pigment stones (empty stomach)
************************************************************************
Chanca Piedra
Chamomile
Enteric peppermint oil caps
************************************************************************
Personally, I would just keep it simple and use Malic acid and Chanca Piedra capsules
but just to know those other things exist is useful.
************************************************************************
SECOND PHASE
Flush is done mixing the olive oil with juice from a lemon.
Also Epsom Salt to prepare. You will need to do many flushes.
I use 1 tablespoon 4 hours and 2 hours before flush
Personally, I don't eat anything the day of the flush. I try to
prepare my colon couple days before by eating more moderately
************************************************************************
Epsom Salt - VERY IMPORTANT to do before and after flush
Olive oIl - 4 oz
Lemon juice - helps for flavor 1/2 cup (I just buy pure lemon juice from store)
Optional: Coca Cola - 10 oz+6oz oil+1/2 cup lemonjuice ( phosphoric content may help with nausea.) Has has to be a cola. I wouldn't do this again. I'd stick with basic stuff.
************************************************************************
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Post Flush like 6-8 hours after flush
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Epsom Salt maybe a couple more times to help expel stones
I don't like to take too much epsom salt so I take less.
Take tablespoons after 8 hours and another 2 hours after wards. This
will help expel any stones.
************************************************************************
========================================================================
Possible problems and work arounds (even if rare, good to know)
************************************************************************
If something caught in colon and nausea doesn't pass
Colonic or Home Colonic (Colenz) to help expel stones
************************************************************************
If something caught in bilary duct
Take Epsom salt to relax bilary duct to allow it to come thru
Optional addition: Take Gold Coin Grass
Optional addition: Take Phosphoric Acid
*************************************************************
*************************************************************
MY THOUGHTS ON WHY PEOPLE FLUSH DON'T GET GOOD FLUSHES
There is a report out there that a combination of
GCG + Chinese Bitters + Curcuma + Cogan??? will produce good flushes taken 1 hour before flush. I think the important ingredients are the Bitters and Curcuma. I think some people may not produce enough bile and their gallbladder doesn't contract well. It would help expel out the crud from the liver and galbladder. Those two herbs would seem to do the job.This is just my current thoughts.
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frequency of liver flush.
Here is Moritz thoughts
My thoughts are that it depends. If one isn't getting many stones out then
not much from your liver to recover from then one can do it much more frequently
If you have flushes where you get a ton of stones out then waiting
10 days or so makes sense. If after getting many stones out, your not
producing any then wait 3-4 weeks to allow crud from back of the
liver to move to the front. Some people do multiple flushes in one day. Also a factor is how many nutrients like milk thistle etc is one feeding the liver so many factors. This is something each individual has to eyeball.
*************************************************************
Are there gallstones in the liver ?
About 3%-4% of people with no gallbladders do develop blockages in their bilary duct. I'd like to see autopsy reports on livers and what was found inside.
Gallstone can be made up of bundles of smaller stones. Smaller stones
made up of gravel and gravel resulting from sludge etc. Whether one
answers yes or no may be a definition game of what constitutes a stone.
So maybe technically you can be correct no matter how you answer.
People who do a lot of actual liver vivisection/autopsies etc should have the definitive answer of what has been found inside.
From a practical perspective, I view gallstones as a process. Under the right conditions, these stones can form. Doesn't matter when it becomes an official stone to someone else. I'd rather stop the process at the gravel or sludge stage in the liver. I want a clean and flowing healthy bile along with good bile production but I also need to undo existing damage and then preventative.
I'm not sure whether one needs to completely clean it. Many people live with stones their entire life. It's about making the liver and gallbladder function more healthy and having it impact positively on your current health problems. once the liver and gallbladder problems calm down then it becomes less urgent and adopt a more gradual approach.
*************************************************************
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Should I have my gallbladder removed ?
You should fight like heck to keep your gallbladder and any other organ the doctor says needs to be removed because you end up trading one problem for many other problems and that can't be undone. This means you don't roll over and give up at the slightest failure. I sense that is what happens to some people who do try some remedies and did surgery. Like pain pill, they are looking for a quick solution and doctor falsely gives reassurance that everything will be ok. Moritz said that one person had no stones until the 7th flush. One anecdotal report had gallbladder pain increase until flush number 10 but that is rare too. It takes persistence and experimentation. You dig in for the long haul.
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What about all the naysayers on this flush ?
On some technical level, they can be correct about something but they are no where to be seen or heard when talking about all the unnecessary gallbladder operations. They are part of the problem. They use scare tactics on people like something getting caught in billary duct. I can say that if you go outside, you may be struck by lightning so don't go outside ever. There is technical truth to it but that's all. They hum the same lie that - doctor knows best. It's ok to get their perspective but they are part of the problem. There are overwhelmingly positive reviews on the flush but they ignore that. If the medical establishment were truly interested in healing, this liver/gallbladder flush would have been studied in clinical trials. They remain silent about the medical establishment not lifting a finger to study this. Like so many other natural cures, their agenda isn't about healing.
Given all the things out there, there is enough scientific evidence that says that cholesterol stones can be broken/dissolved. Many gallstones may not show up on scans unless they are calcified hence doctors will claim nothing is there. Cleaning out the organs of all the crud like bile sludge, fatty deposits, cholesterol build up, gravel, stones etc won't be highlighted by most doctors. They will say everything is ok.
On an anecdotal level, there is hard evidence that people are expelling gravel, calcified stones and other crud of various kinds. People cancel their gallbladder surgery. There are many reviews on line.
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LINKS
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# Andreas Moritz died at age 58 from a condition he got as a child
# very compassionate man but with that comes attacks on him
# no truly good deeds go unpunished on this planet
# Snapshot of liver flush
http://www.cleanse-me-healthy.com/andreas-moritz.html
# Moritz 2012 edition on amazon - has more in depth knowledge
https://www.amazon.com/Andreas-Moritz/e/B001JRVA3E/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
# Moritz PDF 2007 edition is free. Basic info is here.
http://www.whale.to/c/andreas.moritz.-.the.amazing.liver.cleanse.pdf
# Moritz Q & A
http://www.ener-chi.com/free-health...-by-andreas-moritz/liver-flush-liver-cleanse/
# Curezone has the most extensive information on Liver/Gallbladder Flush
# but is information overload. This is why I tried to give a snap shot of what
# I have learned above
http://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/gallstones_and_liver_flush.asp
http://www.curezone.org/gallstones/
# Mayo Clinic
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...pert-answers/gallbladder-cleanse/faq-20058134
# Stool color will tell you if liver or gallbladder is problem
http://drdnaturopath.com/gallbladder-bile-deficiency-and-high-cholesterol/
% the comment section is interesting to read
http://www.biospiritual-energy-healing.com/how-i-got-rid-of-my-gallstones.html
# IF STONES DON'T COME OUT, HERE IS SOME ADVICE. ALSO HAS SOME OTHER PRODUCTS
http://www.sensiblehealth.com/LiverGallbladderFlush.xhtml
# MORE TIPS TO GETTING BETTER FLUSH
http://vitalitymagazine.com/article...bladder-flush-out-gallstones-the-natural-way/
# Products using monoterpenes can be found on Amazon
GallCleanse Gall Cleanse Natural Gallstone Cleanse Kit ($40)
http://www.heranswer.com/GallCleanse_Studies.asp
How to take GallCleanse
http://www.heranswer.com/shopping/products/286-GallCleanse/
Rowachol (~$30)
# Here is some miscellaneous links
http://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/liver_flush_protocol_ortophospho.asp
http://drprincetta.com/tag/super-phos-30-drops/ (avoid nausea)
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/liver-and-gall-bladder-flush-dr-clark-a-818.html
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IN A NUTSHELL
=====================================================================
PHASE 1 Day 1-4 to soften stones
---------------------------------------------------------------------
My daily ritual for 4Xday for 4 days was while stomach empty ...
I poured out one cup of juice. Swallowed 500mg malic acid (you can add more) with sip of juice.
I added 50 drops of phosphoric acid in juice and drank with straw
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
=====================================================================
=====================================================================
PHASE 2 Day 5 to PURGE COLON (and relax bile duct), FLUSH STONES OUT
my objective was to do flush 10 hours after waking up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Continue Phase 1 ritual thru 5th day
Stop eating 9 hours before flush
PURGE/RELAX
4 hours after after last eating, take 1-2 tablespoon epsom salt in glass of water
(after epsom salt dissolved i put ice cubes in it to cool it)
2-3 hours later, drink epsom salt again
FLUSH
2 hours later begin FULUSH
Wait a minimum of 4-10 hours after last meal of day before doing flush
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DRINK THIS
6 ounces of olive oil (what forces the liver to spasm and force stones out)
10 ounces of Coca-Cola (due to its high phosphoric content, helps avoid nausea)
1-2 lemons or large fresh grapefruit (improves taste)
Combine all ingredients in a quart jar; shake well and drink it down relatively quickly.
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
Lie on right side (with pillow under right hip) and bring right knee as close to chest as possible for at least 30 minutes (time is mandatory)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
YOUR DONE so do anything you want
Stay near bathroom in case you need to go
=====================================================================
MY RESULTS
Early morning after. Got up and took tablespoon epsom salt in water and went back to bed.
I felt some back up into my stomach I think. After 2 hours, went to bathroom again.
I saw a few green things but not much.
About 2-3 hours after I did flush, I still had heavy midsection pressure discomfort around my liver. I knew right away that I had to do the flush again. The next day, not much except a few tiny green pieces came out the day after. Maybe gravel but I don't know. I've seen one recommendation is to do the flush again the next day and see if more expelled. I've see many people say not much came out on first flush but it got more successful after that. We have
Being able to do a partial enema with the toilet BIDET is very convenient too. I would recommend that you try it if you have one. It takes time to figure out where to aim it at anus with strong blast of water so it goes inside. It's trial and error thing.
I EVENTUALLY REALIZED I HAD HEPATIC STEATOSIS BUT WAS ABLE TO CURE IT IN 3 WEEKS WITH A SIMPLE PROTOCOL. HOPEFULLY I WILL GET BACK TO THIS AT SOME POINT AFTER I HANDLE ANOTHER PROBLEM
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REPEAT
Keep doing flushes every so often until no more stones come out or if none came out first time. I may experiment with shorter phase one after a couple times or just do phase 2 alone.
Someone says every 3-4 weeks because it takes that long for the stones to move forward from the packed position.
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I came to realize that almost all the articles and info on liver over the years had neglected to mention much about stones and more important the calcification issue over many decades. It's like talking about atherosclerosis by talking about plaque but not calcification. Doing liver detox but not gallstone flush is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound and not removing the bullet. Both the liver and gallbladder need to be cleaned.
It's like the K2 subject, everyone talks about MK-7 as the one but neglects to mention MK-4 and we still dont know how much it will help us. I should have been doing this decalcification and stone removal years ago.
Liver supplements and articles talk about "detox" but do not have STRONG EMPHASIS on calcification and other bile stone related build up. This is the most important detox to have done. Standard medical tests for liver don't even address this.
The type of stone you have in you will determine how easy they come out. If you have just collected bile waste and maybe cholesterol stones, those are most easily dissolved and expelled. If you have more calcified and packed stones, these require a lot of flushes and correct herbs to wear them down.
I am in 61 and never had a flush before. So I will more likely have more highly packed stones in my liver and gallbladder built up if I have them. Longer the residue sits around, the more time it has to get hard. The reason some people can do liver/gallbadder flushes with just oil and lemon is because they have the residue and soft stuff. If your addressing it at this level, life is easy. For the ones who stumble across this realization too late, we need to integrate this stone softening and flush on a much longer time period.
If you are younger with no build up, it is important to be doing liver/gallbladder flushes every so often to insure this build up doesn't get more larger, solidified and more packed.
The nice thing is that I am comfortable with how to do a flush so I don't have to think about it and I can tweak and customize it.
If you got tough stone problem then prepare for the long haul. Pain could get worse simply because a stone shifted. There can be bumps in the road.
Just be persistent and keep bringing the heavy artillery. Look for tips on how to get more useful contraction. I think some people will just not have that persistence hence give up. Some people don't have patience and didn't use enough.
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THE KEY TO PREVENT AND DISSOLVE/BREAK UP STONES
1) INCEASE BILE FLOW
2) INCREASE BILE VOLUME
The reason you developed stones is because there isn't enough bile flowing fast enough.
Increasing bile flow involves removing the sludge from it and making it more liquid.
When you want to dissolve/break the stones, just think of what will help with the above
SILIPHOS and TUDCA help with #1
Ox Bile helps with #2
Epsom Salt helps relax bilary duct and you so things go thru it more easily and relaxed
Bile flow and volume create pressure which helps push out stones and built up sludge
Some people get stones stuck in their colon and a colonic or home colenz fixes that
This is why doing the epsom salt is important. it's for preventative reasons.
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WHAT IF STONE GETS STUCK IN BILARY DUCT
Try taking epsom salt to relax yourself and the bilary duct. Also keep taking the stone breaker herbs. Best way to avoid it is just use various stone breaker stuff for a good amount time before flush. It's a rare event to ever read about.
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JUST LIKE YOUR CAR NEEDS IT'S OIL AND FILTER CHANGED, THIS IS A MANDATORY HEALTH TOOL FOR YOUR HEALTH
So what are the salient points I have learned from this experience. First, gallstone formation begin in the liver - not the gallbladder. You need to get your liver bile healthy also. Some people who have had their gallbladder removed still have gallstone attacks because stones become lodged in bilary duct. Second and most important thing is that learning how to do a liver / gall bladder cleanse is a MUST in terms of life long health maintenance. It is no different than learning to change the oil and filter in your car to remove the built up crud. Taking silymarin or some liver supplement really doesn't address this problem if already there. Thirdly, if you have any type of chronic abdomen discomfort or digestion or constipation etc, this is something you want to check off doing in an attempt to solve them. Heck, you want to check this off for numerous other health problems way beyond that. If your liver and gallbladder are under pressure, this will translate to other parts of the body.
The gallbladder / liver flush becomes another tool you can use to add to your arsenal of weapons to fight your health problems. Once you do it once, you get over any apprehension and unfamiliarity with doing it wondering what will happen.
If you have a gallstone attack and go to a doctor, they will tell you that you must have surgery to have gallbladder removed or you could die. With this tool, you can tell the doctor - no thank you - I'll handle the problem myself and keep my gallbladder. Couple months ago I talk to a mother whose son had his gallbladder sadly removed. Her son never checked the internet and trusted the doctor. This could have been avoided with knowledge. Most doctors simply do what the system tells them and too many really don't care about the patients health. Their licenses are more at risk if they try to heal the patient. The dentists are not to be trusted either. Most people look at doctors as authority figures. Almost everyone has these stones. They can be asymptomatic but they can still be affecting their health but you may not know it.
Don't allow any organ from your body to be removed without a good long hard fight.
Hopefully this is useful to someone out there.
While I was doing this flush, I realized I had Hepatic Steatosis which I was able to cure quickly. Here is a link.
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/inde...-type-2-diabetes-mitochondrial-disease.51786/
My goal with this post is to bring together a lot of scattered information on internet regarding gallbladder/liver flushes. You won't find anything like this on the internet. I also want to demystify and simplify the presentation of the information. The other goal is to save your gallbladder from ever being removed. So here goes.
There are many other liver / gallbladder flushes from around the world but I know nothing about them.
I found this interesting link on stool color
# Stool color will tell you if liver or gallbladder is problem
http://drdnaturopath.com/gallbladder-bile-deficiency-and-high-cholesterol/
=====================================================================
IN A NUTSHELL - here is an example of what I did do
=====================================================================
PHASE 1 Day 1-4 to soften stones
---------------------------------------------------------------------
My daily ritual for 4Xday for 4 days was while stomach empty ...
I poured out one cup of juice. Swallowed 500mg malic acid (you can add more) with sip of juice.
I added 50 drops of phosphoric acid in juice and drank with straw
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water
=====================================================================
=====================================================================
PHASE 2 Day 5 to PURGE COLON (and relax bile duct), FLUSH STONES OUT
my objective was to do flush 10 hours after waking up
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Continue Phase 1 ritual thru 5th day
Stop eating 9 hours before flush
PURGE/RELAX
4 hours after after last eating and before flush, take 1-2 tablespoon epsom salt in glass of water (after epsom salt dissolved i put ice cubes in it to cool it)
2-3 hours later, drink epsom salt again
FLUSH
2 hours later begin FLUSH
Wait a minimum of 4-10 hours after last meal of day before doing flush
------------------------------------------------------------------------
DRINK THIS
6 ounces of olive oil (what forces the liver to spasm and force stones out)
1-2 lemons or large fresh grapefruit (improves taste)
Combine all ingredients in a quart jar; shake well and drink it down relatively quickly.
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
Lie on right side (with pillow under right hip) and bring right knee as close to chest as possible for at least 30 minutes (time is mandatory)
---------------------------------------------------------------------
YOUR DONE so do anything you want
Stay near bathroom in case you need to go
************************************************************************
The purpose of this section is to give you a birds eye view of what's
out there and circumvent information overload which can be overwhelming.
This is a synopsis of what my research has compiled on flushing the liver/gallbladder of sludge, gravel and stones. The first phase of a flush is softening the stones. The second phase is flushing.
************************************************************************
===========================================================
DURING MEALS (OPTIONAL-This is what I added so you can skip it)
I wanted to help clean my bile of sludge to stop any new formations
and help break down things more naturally
------------------------------------------------------------
General Liver/Gallbladder formula – one capsule / day
SILIPHOS is silybin attached to phospholipid choline which is at least 10X or more absorbable than regular milk thistle. Therapeutic dose in research is 5 mg / kg. (THIS IS WHAT I USE)
TUDCA is an UDCA that is the active component of Ox Bile. It increases flow and detoxes – 13.5 mg / kg is ideal dosage (THIS IS WHAT I'D USE IF SILIPHOS DIDN'T EXIST)
Bile salts / Ox bile – experiment with dosage
Beet Root (for a vegetarian)
Ox Bile increases/adds bile. It gets converted to UDCA thru gut bacteria.
Ox Bile may help to prevent against formation of stones along with dissolving of gallstones
D-limonene is one of the most common monoterpenes in nature.
Milk Thistle and Dandelion will increase bile production
============================================================
HERE IS SOME BASIC INFO
************************************************************************
FIRST PHASE Take on empty stomach except where noted. Wait 30 minutes.
Options to help break or dissolve stones in liver/gallbladder
Some people skip phase one and are successful but the stones probably already soft.
************************************************************************
Targets/Soften (most common) cholesterol stones
You won't find this list anywhere on internet
************************************************************************
Gold Coin Grass (Jin Qian Cao) - breaks up bundled stones
Malic Acid - Soften stones
Phosphoric Acid (i took with mallic acid capsules)
TUDCA (take right after meal)
Rowachol (monoterpene) Used in Europe. German formula. 1st ingredient is pinene
D-Limonene (monoterpene, take with meal)
???Pure Gum Turpentine (no reports on this) this is a pinene also
Chinese Bitters This will help bile production and flow. Note that Swedish Bitters have a different purpose and not the one to get.
Curcumin helps with contraction of GallBladder
************************************************************************
Targets calcified/pigment stones (empty stomach)
************************************************************************
Chanca Piedra
Chamomile
Enteric peppermint oil caps
************************************************************************
Personally, I would just keep it simple and use Malic acid and Chanca Piedra capsules
but just to know those other things exist is useful.
************************************************************************
SECOND PHASE
Flush is done mixing the olive oil with juice from a lemon.
Also Epsom Salt to prepare. You will need to do many flushes.
I use 1 tablespoon 4 hours and 2 hours before flush
Personally, I don't eat anything the day of the flush. I try to
prepare my colon couple days before by eating more moderately
************************************************************************
Epsom Salt - VERY IMPORTANT to do before and after flush
Olive oIl - 4 oz
Lemon juice - helps for flavor 1/2 cup (I just buy pure lemon juice from store)
Optional: Coca Cola - 10 oz+6oz oil+1/2 cup lemonjuice ( phosphoric content may help with nausea.) Has has to be a cola. I wouldn't do this again. I'd stick with basic stuff.
************************************************************************
************************************************************************
Post Flush like 6-8 hours after flush
************************************************************************
Epsom Salt maybe a couple more times to help expel stones
I don't like to take too much epsom salt so I take less.
Take tablespoons after 8 hours and another 2 hours after wards. This
will help expel any stones.
************************************************************************
========================================================================
Possible problems and work arounds (even if rare, good to know)
************************************************************************
If something caught in colon and nausea doesn't pass
Colonic or Home Colonic (Colenz) to help expel stones
************************************************************************
If something caught in bilary duct
Take Epsom salt to relax bilary duct to allow it to come thru
Optional addition: Take Gold Coin Grass
Optional addition: Take Phosphoric Acid
*************************************************************
*************************************************************
MY THOUGHTS ON WHY PEOPLE FLUSH DON'T GET GOOD FLUSHES
There is a report out there that a combination of
GCG + Chinese Bitters + Curcuma + Cogan??? will produce good flushes taken 1 hour before flush. I think the important ingredients are the Bitters and Curcuma. I think some people may not produce enough bile and their gallbladder doesn't contract well. It would help expel out the crud from the liver and galbladder. Those two herbs would seem to do the job.This is just my current thoughts.
*************************************************************
*************************************************************
frequency of liver flush.
Here is Moritz thoughts
My thoughts are that it depends. If one isn't getting many stones out then
not much from your liver to recover from then one can do it much more frequently
If you have flushes where you get a ton of stones out then waiting
10 days or so makes sense. If after getting many stones out, your not
producing any then wait 3-4 weeks to allow crud from back of the
liver to move to the front. Some people do multiple flushes in one day. Also a factor is how many nutrients like milk thistle etc is one feeding the liver so many factors. This is something each individual has to eyeball.
*************************************************************
Are there gallstones in the liver ?
About 3%-4% of people with no gallbladders do develop blockages in their bilary duct. I'd like to see autopsy reports on livers and what was found inside.
Gallstone can be made up of bundles of smaller stones. Smaller stones
made up of gravel and gravel resulting from sludge etc. Whether one
answers yes or no may be a definition game of what constitutes a stone.
So maybe technically you can be correct no matter how you answer.
People who do a lot of actual liver vivisection/autopsies etc should have the definitive answer of what has been found inside.
From a practical perspective, I view gallstones as a process. Under the right conditions, these stones can form. Doesn't matter when it becomes an official stone to someone else. I'd rather stop the process at the gravel or sludge stage in the liver. I want a clean and flowing healthy bile along with good bile production but I also need to undo existing damage and then preventative.
I'm not sure whether one needs to completely clean it. Many people live with stones their entire life. It's about making the liver and gallbladder function more healthy and having it impact positively on your current health problems. once the liver and gallbladder problems calm down then it becomes less urgent and adopt a more gradual approach.
*************************************************************
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Should I have my gallbladder removed ?
You should fight like heck to keep your gallbladder and any other organ the doctor says needs to be removed because you end up trading one problem for many other problems and that can't be undone. This means you don't roll over and give up at the slightest failure. I sense that is what happens to some people who do try some remedies and did surgery. Like pain pill, they are looking for a quick solution and doctor falsely gives reassurance that everything will be ok. Moritz said that one person had no stones until the 7th flush. One anecdotal report had gallbladder pain increase until flush number 10 but that is rare too. It takes persistence and experimentation. You dig in for the long haul.
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What about all the naysayers on this flush ?
On some technical level, they can be correct about something but they are no where to be seen or heard when talking about all the unnecessary gallbladder operations. They are part of the problem. They use scare tactics on people like something getting caught in billary duct. I can say that if you go outside, you may be struck by lightning so don't go outside ever. There is technical truth to it but that's all. They hum the same lie that - doctor knows best. It's ok to get their perspective but they are part of the problem. There are overwhelmingly positive reviews on the flush but they ignore that. If the medical establishment were truly interested in healing, this liver/gallbladder flush would have been studied in clinical trials. They remain silent about the medical establishment not lifting a finger to study this. Like so many other natural cures, their agenda isn't about healing.
Given all the things out there, there is enough scientific evidence that says that cholesterol stones can be broken/dissolved. Many gallstones may not show up on scans unless they are calcified hence doctors will claim nothing is there. Cleaning out the organs of all the crud like bile sludge, fatty deposits, cholesterol build up, gravel, stones etc won't be highlighted by most doctors. They will say everything is ok.
On an anecdotal level, there is hard evidence that people are expelling gravel, calcified stones and other crud of various kinds. People cancel their gallbladder surgery. There are many reviews on line.
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LINKS
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# Andreas Moritz died at age 58 from a condition he got as a child
# very compassionate man but with that comes attacks on him
# no truly good deeds go unpunished on this planet
# Snapshot of liver flush
http://www.cleanse-me-healthy.com/andreas-moritz.html
# Moritz 2012 edition on amazon - has more in depth knowledge
https://www.amazon.com/Andreas-Moritz/e/B001JRVA3E/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1
# Moritz PDF 2007 edition is free. Basic info is here.
http://www.whale.to/c/andreas.moritz.-.the.amazing.liver.cleanse.pdf
# Moritz Q & A
http://www.ener-chi.com/free-health...-by-andreas-moritz/liver-flush-liver-cleanse/
# Curezone has the most extensive information on Liver/Gallbladder Flush
# but is information overload. This is why I tried to give a snap shot of what
# I have learned above
http://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/gallstones_and_liver_flush.asp
http://www.curezone.org/gallstones/
# Mayo Clinic
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...pert-answers/gallbladder-cleanse/faq-20058134
# Stool color will tell you if liver or gallbladder is problem
http://drdnaturopath.com/gallbladder-bile-deficiency-and-high-cholesterol/
% the comment section is interesting to read
http://www.biospiritual-energy-healing.com/how-i-got-rid-of-my-gallstones.html
# IF STONES DON'T COME OUT, HERE IS SOME ADVICE. ALSO HAS SOME OTHER PRODUCTS
http://www.sensiblehealth.com/LiverGallbladderFlush.xhtml
# MORE TIPS TO GETTING BETTER FLUSH
http://vitalitymagazine.com/article...bladder-flush-out-gallstones-the-natural-way/
# Products using monoterpenes can be found on Amazon
GallCleanse Gall Cleanse Natural Gallstone Cleanse Kit ($40)
http://www.heranswer.com/GallCleanse_Studies.asp
How to take GallCleanse
http://www.heranswer.com/shopping/products/286-GallCleanse/
Rowachol (~$30)
# Here is some miscellaneous links
http://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/liver_flush_protocol_ortophospho.asp
http://drprincetta.com/tag/super-phos-30-drops/ (avoid nausea)
http://www.life-enthusiast.com/liver-and-gall-bladder-flush-dr-clark-a-818.html
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IN A NUTSHELL
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PHASE 1 Day 1-4 to soften stones
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My daily ritual for 4Xday for 4 days was while stomach empty ...
I poured out one cup of juice. Swallowed 500mg malic acid (you can add more) with sip of juice.
I added 50 drops of phosphoric acid in juice and drank with straw
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
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PHASE 2 Day 5 to PURGE COLON (and relax bile duct), FLUSH STONES OUT
my objective was to do flush 10 hours after waking up
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Continue Phase 1 ritual thru 5th day
Stop eating 9 hours before flush
PURGE/RELAX
4 hours after after last eating, take 1-2 tablespoon epsom salt in glass of water
(after epsom salt dissolved i put ice cubes in it to cool it)
2-3 hours later, drink epsom salt again
FLUSH
2 hours later begin FULUSH
Wait a minimum of 4-10 hours after last meal of day before doing flush
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DRINK THIS
6 ounces of olive oil (what forces the liver to spasm and force stones out)
10 ounces of Coca-Cola (due to its high phosphoric content, helps avoid nausea)
1-2 lemons or large fresh grapefruit (improves taste)
Combine all ingredients in a quart jar; shake well and drink it down relatively quickly.
I swished/rinsed my mouth out with baking soda water and spit out
Lie on right side (with pillow under right hip) and bring right knee as close to chest as possible for at least 30 minutes (time is mandatory)
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YOUR DONE so do anything you want
Stay near bathroom in case you need to go
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MY RESULTS
Early morning after. Got up and took tablespoon epsom salt in water and went back to bed.
I felt some back up into my stomach I think. After 2 hours, went to bathroom again.
I saw a few green things but not much.
About 2-3 hours after I did flush, I still had heavy midsection pressure discomfort around my liver. I knew right away that I had to do the flush again. The next day, not much except a few tiny green pieces came out the day after. Maybe gravel but I don't know. I've seen one recommendation is to do the flush again the next day and see if more expelled. I've see many people say not much came out on first flush but it got more successful after that. We have
Being able to do a partial enema with the toilet BIDET is very convenient too. I would recommend that you try it if you have one. It takes time to figure out where to aim it at anus with strong blast of water so it goes inside. It's trial and error thing.
I EVENTUALLY REALIZED I HAD HEPATIC STEATOSIS BUT WAS ABLE TO CURE IT IN 3 WEEKS WITH A SIMPLE PROTOCOL. HOPEFULLY I WILL GET BACK TO THIS AT SOME POINT AFTER I HANDLE ANOTHER PROBLEM
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REPEAT
Keep doing flushes every so often until no more stones come out or if none came out first time. I may experiment with shorter phase one after a couple times or just do phase 2 alone.
Someone says every 3-4 weeks because it takes that long for the stones to move forward from the packed position.
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I came to realize that almost all the articles and info on liver over the years had neglected to mention much about stones and more important the calcification issue over many decades. It's like talking about atherosclerosis by talking about plaque but not calcification. Doing liver detox but not gallstone flush is like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound and not removing the bullet. Both the liver and gallbladder need to be cleaned.
It's like the K2 subject, everyone talks about MK-7 as the one but neglects to mention MK-4 and we still dont know how much it will help us. I should have been doing this decalcification and stone removal years ago.
Liver supplements and articles talk about "detox" but do not have STRONG EMPHASIS on calcification and other bile stone related build up. This is the most important detox to have done. Standard medical tests for liver don't even address this.
The type of stone you have in you will determine how easy they come out. If you have just collected bile waste and maybe cholesterol stones, those are most easily dissolved and expelled. If you have more calcified and packed stones, these require a lot of flushes and correct herbs to wear them down.
I am in 61 and never had a flush before. So I will more likely have more highly packed stones in my liver and gallbladder built up if I have them. Longer the residue sits around, the more time it has to get hard. The reason some people can do liver/gallbadder flushes with just oil and lemon is because they have the residue and soft stuff. If your addressing it at this level, life is easy. For the ones who stumble across this realization too late, we need to integrate this stone softening and flush on a much longer time period.
If you are younger with no build up, it is important to be doing liver/gallbladder flushes every so often to insure this build up doesn't get more larger, solidified and more packed.
The nice thing is that I am comfortable with how to do a flush so I don't have to think about it and I can tweak and customize it.
If you got tough stone problem then prepare for the long haul. Pain could get worse simply because a stone shifted. There can be bumps in the road.
Just be persistent and keep bringing the heavy artillery. Look for tips on how to get more useful contraction. I think some people will just not have that persistence hence give up. Some people don't have patience and didn't use enough.
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THE KEY TO PREVENT AND DISSOLVE/BREAK UP STONES
1) INCEASE BILE FLOW
2) INCREASE BILE VOLUME
The reason you developed stones is because there isn't enough bile flowing fast enough.
Increasing bile flow involves removing the sludge from it and making it more liquid.
When you want to dissolve/break the stones, just think of what will help with the above
SILIPHOS and TUDCA help with #1
Ox Bile helps with #2
Epsom Salt helps relax bilary duct and you so things go thru it more easily and relaxed
Bile flow and volume create pressure which helps push out stones and built up sludge
Some people get stones stuck in their colon and a colonic or home colenz fixes that
This is why doing the epsom salt is important. it's for preventative reasons.
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WHAT IF STONE GETS STUCK IN BILARY DUCT
Try taking epsom salt to relax yourself and the bilary duct. Also keep taking the stone breaker herbs. Best way to avoid it is just use various stone breaker stuff for a good amount time before flush. It's a rare event to ever read about.
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JUST LIKE YOUR CAR NEEDS IT'S OIL AND FILTER CHANGED, THIS IS A MANDATORY HEALTH TOOL FOR YOUR HEALTH
So what are the salient points I have learned from this experience. First, gallstone formation begin in the liver - not the gallbladder. You need to get your liver bile healthy also. Some people who have had their gallbladder removed still have gallstone attacks because stones become lodged in bilary duct. Second and most important thing is that learning how to do a liver / gall bladder cleanse is a MUST in terms of life long health maintenance. It is no different than learning to change the oil and filter in your car to remove the built up crud. Taking silymarin or some liver supplement really doesn't address this problem if already there. Thirdly, if you have any type of chronic abdomen discomfort or digestion or constipation etc, this is something you want to check off doing in an attempt to solve them. Heck, you want to check this off for numerous other health problems way beyond that. If your liver and gallbladder are under pressure, this will translate to other parts of the body.
The gallbladder / liver flush becomes another tool you can use to add to your arsenal of weapons to fight your health problems. Once you do it once, you get over any apprehension and unfamiliarity with doing it wondering what will happen.
If you have a gallstone attack and go to a doctor, they will tell you that you must have surgery to have gallbladder removed or you could die. With this tool, you can tell the doctor - no thank you - I'll handle the problem myself and keep my gallbladder. Couple months ago I talk to a mother whose son had his gallbladder sadly removed. Her son never checked the internet and trusted the doctor. This could have been avoided with knowledge. Most doctors simply do what the system tells them and too many really don't care about the patients health. Their licenses are more at risk if they try to heal the patient. The dentists are not to be trusted either. Most people look at doctors as authority figures. Almost everyone has these stones. They can be asymptomatic but they can still be affecting their health but you may not know it.
Don't allow any organ from your body to be removed without a good long hard fight.
Hopefully this is useful to someone out there.
