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I don´t know a good way of reducing it (some people have tried bicarbonate of soda), but I have an inkling of what might be causing it. I´m going to write a blog about it later today.
Do you have some proof that bicarbonates was efficient to lower your blood lactates?bicarbonate worked like a charm for me.
And CBT is often used to treat ME patients. Without a citation to a study or other documentation showing effectiveness, it's not a useful statement.To quote Medscape: "Oral citrate is often used to treat acidosis."
It's not "not a useful statement," but it could be a better supported statement. It was written and edited by MDs, and the article contains references, albeit not tied to that specific treatment. It would be nice to see such support (and from the folks recommending bicarbonate and D-ribose), but presumably the highly educated authors and editors didn't include citrate at random.And CBT is often used to treat ME patients. Without a citation to a study or other documentation showing effectiveness, it's not a useful statement.
The same is assumed of CBT. We need evidence, not appeals to authority.It would be nice to see such support (and from the folks recommending bicarbonate and D-ribose), but presumably the highly educated authors and editors didn't include citrate at random.
Your example of CBT is not apt, since there are peer-reviewed research articles supporting it. They're just faulty.The same is assumed of CBT. We need evidence, not appeals to authority.
Symptoms@Gday - Are you making assumptions about the cause of symptoms, or have you been using a blood lactate tester?
Then you should be seeing a doctor, not making assumptions about the cause and blindly seeking a treatment. It's very easy for hospitals and even most clinics to run a quick blood test to see if lactate is elevated.Symptoms
yes in theory, this is very easy, but if you do a fasting blood lactatemia on a CFS patient (this is the only thing most doctors are trained to investigate , you may find it in the normal ranges, which doesn't mean there is not a lactatemia problem...)Then you should be seeing a doctor, not making assumptions about the cause and blindly seeking a treatment. It's very easy for hospitals and even most clinics to run a quick blood test to see if lactate is elevated.
@Gday @pattismith "...A MELAS patient was treated with oral nicotinamide for 5 months. The blood NAD content representing the NAD + NADH pool of erythrocytes rose 24 fold and the blood lactate + pyrovate concentration fell by 50%."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9309702
Thanks@Gday @pattismith "...A MELAS patient was treated with oral nicotinamide for 5 months. The blood NAD content representing the NAD + NADH pool of erythrocytes rose 24 fold and the blood lactate + pyrovate concentration fell by 50%."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9309702