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About 24 hours for me.hey guys just wondering how long it can take you to crash?
Is it possible to take up to two weeks until feeling the effects?
+ 1 to this! One big day can crash me immediately, as in I get home and go straight to sleep because I've overdone it so much. Usually, if I didn't completely overdo it, a day out will cause me to crash the next day. But there is also a cumulative effect, which I think is because you aren't fully recovering after each activity. For example, if you think of the following where 0 is fully rested and 10 is initiating a crash. Fully rested you're 0, then you do something that exacerbates you to 5, then rest to recover. But if you don't fully rest, you might be only go down to a 1 or 2. So the next day you do another "5" activity, but now you've reached a 6 or a 7. Then the same amount of rest only gets you down to a 2 or 3. Continuing this can eventually lead to a crash, even though the activity that "caused" the crash was relatively small.That said, sometimes I can do activities without a crash but it has a cumulative effects that seems to reduce the crash threshold. So a week of activities without a crash can be enough to mean that a seemingly low impact activity in week two could cause a crash.
Next day for me.
This is definitely true for me too. I think the timing of my PEM is different for physical versus cognitive exertion. Physical exertion hits the next day, but cognitive exertion gets me almost immediately. Recovering from either depends on how much I overexerted but is usually at least a few days.That said, sometimes I can do activities without a crash but it has a cumulative effects that seems to reduce the crash threshold. So a week of activities without a crash can be enough to mean that a seemingly low impact activity in week two could cause a crash.
That's interesting, I'm the opposite! Physical exertion is more likely to hit quicker for me. Exception is after an exam, which involves the physical strain of getting there plus the one to two hours of mental strain doing the exam. After I finally get home, straight to bed to pass out. That's the only time cognitive exertion really crashes me, I guess because I usually stop cognitive exertion when it starts becoming too hard. I study in short bursts to reduce the effects. Physical exertion is harder for me to avoid crashes with, harder for me to judge I think. POTS is probably a factor in that, because it makes me feel horrible when I do things regardless of my CFS, so makes it harder to judge the effects of exertion on PEM.This is definitely true for me too. I think the timing of my PEM is different for physical versus cognitive exertion. Physical exertion hits the next day, but cognitive exertion gets me almost immediately. Recovering from either depends on how much I overexerted but is usually at least a few days.
While I find it easier to overdo it cognitively but I don't have POTS (or if I do it's fairly mild).That's interesting, I'm the opposite! Physical exertion is more likely to hit quicker for me. Exception is after an exam, which involves the physical strain of getting there plus the one to two hours of mental strain doing the exam. After I finally get home, straight to bed to pass out. That's the only time cognitive exertion really crashes me, I guess because I usually stop cognitive exertion when it starts becoming too hard. I study in short bursts to reduce the effects. Physical exertion is harder for me to avoid crashes with, harder for me to judge I think. POTS is probably a factor in that, because it makes me feel horrible when I do things regardless of my CFS, so makes it harder to judge the effects of exertion on PEM.