caledonia
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Hi all,
I'm conducting a poll regarding the types of metals a person has and if they might be causing PEM (post exertional malaise/post exertional neuroimmune exhaustion).
Post-Exertional Malaise: After physical or mental exertion, there is an inappropriate loss of physical and mental stamina, rapid muscular and cognitive fatigability, post-exertional malaise and/or fatigue and/or pain and a tendency for other associated symptoms within the patient’s cluster of symptoms to worsen. There is a pathologically slow recovery period–usually 24 hours or longer.
Examples of symptoms - flu-like muscle or joint aches, exhaustion, trouble with concentration or memory, headache, sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, etc.
You must have done the Doctors Data hair and minerals test recommended by Andrew Cutler and interpreted it with Cutler's counting rules (or had the Frequent Dose Chelation forum interpret it for you).
You may also look at the symptom lists for each metal in Cutler's book "Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities" and list the metals you have many symptoms for (like 8 or more symptoms).
Please, no results from blood or urine tests or hair tests done without looking for disordered mineral transport as these aren't accurate enough.
There are two questions:
a) Do you have PEM? (yes or no)
b) Which metals do you have?
I'll go first -
I have PEM
I have mercury, lead and arsenic.
I'm conducting a poll regarding the types of metals a person has and if they might be causing PEM (post exertional malaise/post exertional neuroimmune exhaustion).
Post-Exertional Malaise: After physical or mental exertion, there is an inappropriate loss of physical and mental stamina, rapid muscular and cognitive fatigability, post-exertional malaise and/or fatigue and/or pain and a tendency for other associated symptoms within the patient’s cluster of symptoms to worsen. There is a pathologically slow recovery period–usually 24 hours or longer.
Examples of symptoms - flu-like muscle or joint aches, exhaustion, trouble with concentration or memory, headache, sore throat, swollen lymph nodes, etc.
You must have done the Doctors Data hair and minerals test recommended by Andrew Cutler and interpreted it with Cutler's counting rules (or had the Frequent Dose Chelation forum interpret it for you).
You may also look at the symptom lists for each metal in Cutler's book "Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities" and list the metals you have many symptoms for (like 8 or more symptoms).
Please, no results from blood or urine tests or hair tests done without looking for disordered mineral transport as these aren't accurate enough.
There are two questions:
a) Do you have PEM? (yes or no)
b) Which metals do you have?
I'll go first -
I have PEM
I have mercury, lead and arsenic.