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Huffpost article: ‘Chronic Fatigue Syndrome isn’t What You Think it is, it’s Much Worse’

anciendaze

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Just a small criticism. Whitney Dafoe, and many patients with severe ME/CFS, could not have been in the PACE study because they were not able to leave home unassisted or participate in chosen therapies.
 

Comet

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Great article. I thought it did a great job explaining how easy it is for friends/family to forget about us or minimize our disease.
 

alex3619

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Just a small criticism. Whitney Dafoe, and many patients with severe ME/CFS, could not have been in the PACE study because they were not able to leave home unassisted or participate in chosen therapies.
Actually that is not what is implied. Its about the way such patients might be told or coerced into psychotherapy and exercise. Its not just about PACE, but about how PACE is often interpreted. I think very few realize PACE cannot be generalized to sicker patients, and similarly they are unaware of how bad the research is.
 

shannah

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Mary Schweitzer has just posted some really good comments over there:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/-stephanie-land/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-_1_b_9513498.html

Mary Schweitzer ·
Disabled historian at Disabled at home since 1994
Thank you for this compassionate article. If I could just correct one thing, it would be your comment that some have the disease for months, others for years. Sadly, those who do well take 2 years to do so. For most of us, this is a life sentence. We learn to cope with it; some people like me are able to get testing and medicine. Not every drug works for everyone - sadly, it appears they have found nothing that can work for Whitney.

At least one million adult Americans have ME. At best, one-fourth are working fulltime; another one-fourth part-time. One-half - that would be 500,000 people - cannot work at all. Some, like Whitney, have family; others live in quiet desperation - you may have been a lawyer or a doctor, a nurse or a teacher, but now you are penniless and dependent upon the stingy largesse of our penurious government. I have friends who have spent periods homeless; many more who live in daily fear of becoming homeless.

Two reports were commissioned last year by the federal government - one for the Dept. of Health and Human Services (HHS) by the Institute of Medicine, the other by a program within NIH called P2P (Pathways to Prevention). BOTH studies stated unconditionally that this disease is not psychiatric in etiology or characteristics.

NIH's Director, Francis Collins, has announced a new internal study (presumaby in response to the urgency declared by both reports). However, the Lead Associate Director for the study published an article last year stating casually that "chronic fatigue syndrome" and fibromyalgia are both somatoform disorders (the current pseudonym for psychosomatic disorders).

He is one of five members on an "expert committee." Another "expert" is a specialist on "catastrophizing" - that is, upon observing that patients who say they are in a lot of pain tend to think about pain more than others, this researcher concluded that THINKING about pain CAUSES pain. A third is a nice elderly gentleman who is so outdated on the literature that he still thinks counseling and exercise are the only options.

I have been sick since 1994. I had a natural killer cell function below 3%; the 37kDa RNase-l defect (which leaves an essential component to fighting viruses half-sized); and abnormal cytokine profiles. I had abnormal SPECT scans and CPET scores. I also had become mostly bedridden (I could get to the bathroom from my bed, but that took a lot of effort); couldn't read; had ataxia, absence seizures, blackouts, expressive dysphasia, disorientation, and massive confusion to the point where if I did have to ride in a car, my daughter had to fasten my seat belt because I didn't know what those two things were for. And there was a lot of pain.

I'm lucky to be in studies to get this testing, and lucky to respond to an experimental immune modulator. I can walk - stride, even! - drive a car, read anything, I'm back to writing again - I still have problems with stamina and fighting off flus, but I am a real personal again. The medicine is $16,000/year and requires that I be at a "study" site because i have to get it by IV twice a week, but I'm still grateful to have it. I've been on it since 1999. Most of my friends make less in a year than I spend on this one drug, so I know how lucky I am.

In Whitney's case, you have to be concerned that any drug strong enough to make a dent in the disease could itself harm him more. But this disease does kill. In 2005, the 23-year-old son of a close friend, long diagnosed with CFS, died in his sleep of a massive heart attack. His heart showed both old and new scarring consistent with years of viral assaults.

We cannot get Washington to FOCUS on this disease and consider it a priority. Insurance companies - taken by surprise by AIDS - have been determined not to have to fund us. 70-80% of patients are female, and there is an element of the all-knowing professional dismissing the stated symptoms of a patient who is supposed to be compliant. Perhaps NIH and CDC are trying to save face, having done nothing for 30 years. But I have trouble thinking of any good reason that this disease is not treated with an URGENCY commensurate with its prevalence and severity.

I ask people to help us get research funding from NIH for people currently doing biomedical research on the disease - not just within NIH. I ask for parity in funding - $350 million as is spent on MS, with half the patients, would be a miraculous change from $6 million. I ask for CARE for the patients who have this disease and have been deserted.

And right now, we are also asking that NIH stop that study which is careening towards disaster - only 40 patients, with three of the five experts involved in choosing patients having published on this disease being caused by "somaticizing." They have great plans for what they are going to do with the patients, but the study will be doomed at the start by only 40 chosen in haphazard manner.

Please help us! Thank you.
 

shannah

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Here's a comment that stands out.

Anybody know anything about this man's work from 1994 and 1995 or the 'activated water' he mentions?

W John Martin

I published an article in 1994 indicating that the chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is part of a spectrum of illnesses due to infection with stealth adapted viruses (1). These viruses are not effectively recognized by the immune system and, therefore, do not evoke an inflammatory response, the usual hallmark of an infectious disease.

Public health authorities chose not to pursue stealth adapted viruses since some had unequivocally arisen from the cytomegaloviruses (CMV) of monkeys used to produce polio vaccines (2).

I have continued research on these viruses with a special focus on an alternative cellular energy (ACE) pathway, which can suppress both stealth adapted and conventional viruses. It is relatively easy to enhance the ACE pathway with activated water and this should become the topic of major clinical trials. I hope that government officials and CFS patient groups will become better informed of stealth adapted viruses and the ACE pathway. I can be reached at wjohnmartin@ccid.org

from 1994:
Cytomegalovirus-related sequence in an atypical cytopathic virus repeatedly isolated from a patient with chronic fatigue syndrome.
1Department of Pathology, USC School of Medicine, Los Angeles 90033.
(1) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8053501

from 1995:
African green monkey origin of the atypical cytopathic 'stealth virus' isolated from a patient with chronic fatigue syndrome.
1Department of Pathology, University of Southern California School of Medicine, 2011 Zonal Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90033, USA.
(2) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15566831
 

ukxmrv

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Dr Martin sometimes posts here On PR

He used to have a Yahoo group years ago or similar. His work was certainly discussed on the early CFS groups and patients had his test. Sorry can't remember anything about water.
 

shannah

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Here's another article that's well written and using the same title, referencing the Huffington Post article but appearing in something called 'Your Tango'. Comments accepted.

Think of it as total body shut down.

When people hear Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, they have a tendency to cast it off as something that isn't very serious and just another term for laziness. The truth is that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), or myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), is a debilitating and frightening health condition that leaves people bedridden and dependent on others to care for them.

In a Huffington Post article, writer Stephanie Land said, upon discovering that her friend Whitney Dafoe had CFS, "I thought that it meant normal or mundane tasks overly exhausted him and that was the end of his affliction. I thought he'd get over it, eventually."

But people with CFS or ME don't get over it.

Dafoe wrote in his blog, "The most fundamental symptom [from ME] is debilitating fatigue. But fatigue is much too mild a word. I like to compare the state I'm in now to staying up for two nights in a row while fasting, then getting drunk. The state you would be in on the third day — hung over, not having slept or eaten in three days — is close, but still better than many CFS patients feel every day. Total body shut down would be a better phrase because you are at a point where your body physically does not have the energy to keep going."

Continue reading at: http://www.yourtango.com/2016287352/chronic-fatigue-syndrome-much-worse-than-you-think
 
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