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Enterococcus EC sourcing

Daffodil

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hi all. my doctor wants me to take "enterococcus EC" but I have no idea where to get this?? has anyone heard of this?

thank you
daff
 

sarah darwins

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Daffodil

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thanks @sarah darwins . i called a pharmacy that deals with a lot of KDM patients. they seemed to think he wants me to take Symbiaflor 1. so i guess i will be paying $800 for the next few months of meds from Belgium cuz i need a bunch of stuff i cant get here ! ughhhhhhhhhhhhh. i don't know what else i can do.
 

roller

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its a troublemaker supposed to spike the immune system in the gut, which then is thought to trigger immune activation elsewhere, too ?

The bacterium Enterococcus faecalis has a natural training effect on the immune system. The biggest concentration of immune cells are to be found in the intestine. Invaders first come into direct contact with the immune system in this area. This contact activates the immune cells and stimulates them into spreading throughout the body. By means of the bloodstream the immune cells allocate themselves to the various mucous membranes. In this manner the bacteria not only give the intestinal defense a push but also the defense in the paranasal sinus and bronchial tract.
http://www.symbiopharm.de/en/products/symbioflor-1.html
 

roller

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something interesting on e faecalis

e faecalis normally doesnt stand a chance, except after taking abx. then it gains ground in the gut.

More specifically, they found that a non-resistant strain of Enterococcus (which is native to the human gut) produced a pheromone called cOB1—when drug resistant E. faecalis V583 bacteria were exposed to that pheromone, they were killed.
http://phys.org/news/2015-05-pheromones-gut-bacteria-resistant-variants.html