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Hi folks .
I got some potassium salt substitute at the store today. But to me it does not taste salty! Am I just a mutant, or does this mean something?
Of course I put it in a big pot of stew before I tasted it...
What I've found is that if you need salt, a large amount of salt will taste good to you, but horribly salty to a normal. The same sort of thing seems to work for magnesium and potassium. If you have the right amount, like someone said on here, it will taste like "liquid unicorn" - the most wonderful thing you've ever tasted, and you'll just gulp it right down.
If it's too much it will taste bad and you won't want to drink it. If it's not enough, it will seem like it's lacking something.
ps. I don't know if No Salt, etc. is the best form.
Thanks, caledonia .
I do feel that way about some things. I mentioned in another thread about eating salt straight out of the shaker when I really need it. But magnesium citrate, straight in water, tastes like I imagine skunk pee would, every time .
Are you referring to the other ingredients in the salt substitute? I was a little alarmed to see them on the label, and I don't know what they are (good, bad, indifferent).
My main source of K+ is from high-potassium foods. But there is a limit to how much food I can eat in a day! Is the fake salt not good solution to that?
NOW Foods and others make a pure 100% potassium chloride granules that can be used as a salt substitute without any additives to keep it from caking. Potassium chloride has the peculiar characteristic of being sweet in low concentration and salty tasting in higher concentration. It's a lot cheaper than potassium gluconate per mg of elemental K.
Freddd said: ↑
NOW Foods and others make a pure 100% potassium chloride granules that can be used as a salt substitute without any additives to keep it from caking. Potassium chloride has the peculiar characteristic of being sweet in low concentration and salty tasting in higher concentration. It's a lot cheaper than potassium gluconate per mg of elemental K.
Thanks, Freddd . I am also looking into ways to do foot soaks with potassium.
@Freddd
This is what I don't get - how can supplementing with too low of an amount of methylfolate cause a deficiency. You're already deficient.
It wouldn't be enough to alleviate the deficiency, but it shouldn't make you worse, just not make you better.
Hi Caladonia,
That is one reason it appears paradoxical and causes much confusion, and has for 50 years of research. For starters, I have no idea how much the body has to have. I have never seen a number given in any research. The dose of supplements sizes was limited to what they hoped wouldn't cause SACD via lack of b12, not anything to do with actual sufficiency. Until a few years ago it wasn't even possible to find out what folate sufficiency actually looks like and much was considered b12 deficiency. It is these "triage" levels the research talks about. It is possible to have sufficient folate on some of these triage levels and have outright deficiency on other triage levels.
My description of it based on observing myself and many others is that a low dose ie 200mcg, appears to start an entire layer, more healing than the 200mcg can sustain. The body then appears to direct folate from other triage levels to the level(s) that are turned on causing immediate deficiency/insufficiency symptoms on the sacrifice level(s). So for me insufficiency first hits on my epithelial layer; edema (kidneys are a special epithelial tissue) angular cheilitis, acne type lesions, IBS, lung inflammation, breakup and peeling of skin around nails and fingertips, MCS, allergies and more as it continues. When I get those controlled usually no others start up.
Hi Caladonia,
That is one reason it appears paradoxical and causes much confusion, and has for 50 years of research. For starters, I have no idea how much the body has to have. I have never seen a number given in any research. The dose of supplements sizes was limited to what they hoped wouldn't cause SACD via lack of b12, not anything to do with actual sufficiency. Until a few years ago it wasn't even possible to find out what folate sufficiency actually looks like and much was considered b12 deficiency. It is these "triage" levels the research talks about. It is possible to have sufficient folate on some of these triage levels and have outright deficiency on other triage levels.
My description of it based on observing myself and many others is that a low dose ie 200mcg, appears to start an entire layer, more healing than the 200mcg can sustain. The body then appears to direct folate from other triage levels to the level(s) that are turned on causing immediate deficiency/insufficiency symptoms on the sacrifice level(s). So for me insufficiency first hits on my epithelial layer; edema (kidneys are a special epithelial tissue) angular cheilitis, acne type lesions, IBS, lung inflammation, breakup and peeling of skin around nails and fingertips, MCS, allergies and more as it continues. When I get those controlled usually no others start up.
It's a very good question. There are many factors involved including degree of illness, other snps, gastro integrity, etc. some would say to check RBC folate levels to see where you are with repletion, while others would say to increase intake until you feel good. I have my patients start low and go slow.
It does make sense that the body would choose to prioritize more critical areas to send the methylfolate to (or send healing to or however it should be said), and to leave less critical areas deficient.
Then the next question is, why do some people have this effect, and not others. Are the ones who get the insufficiency just massively more depleted than others? It seems like if you were that depleted, you would already be dead.
I asked the same question over at the MTHFRsupport forum and one of the docs answered back with this:
Well @caledonia I am with @Freddd on this one. Freddds has described with details all my symptoms and the way they turn on or turn off at different folate dosages and these are amazing observations to have done. My body behaviour regarding folate is being describe by what freddd isa saying to be paradoxical folate insuffeciency. I do not know if it is the same for everyone but I do believe that there are people that make the mistake to descrease the folate when they do have start up symptoms instead of increaseing it and find a dosage where the symptoms stop! For me this dosage is 4.8mg or somewhere near there.
It does make sense that the body would choose to prioritize more critical areas to send the methylfolate to (or send healing to or however it should be said), and to leave less critical areas deficient.
Then the next question is, why do some people have this effect, and not others. Are the ones who get the insufficiency just massively more depleted than others? It seems like if you were that depleted, you would already be dead.
I asked the same question over at the MTHFRsupport forum and one of the docs answered back with this: