Freddd
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I am down 100 pounds now from where I started on May 21, 2003. I had a crisis this year when the diuretic became too effective. Whatever was causing be to put on 85 pounds of water, 2-3 pounds a day without diuretic, has healed. So one more drug is off my schedule.
In this 10 years, I have progressively healed from CFS, FMS and congestive heart failure. In all my fall backs non of the HEALED symptoms came back. So most of my further trouble has been recurrent paradoxical folate deficiency transient symptoms, transient low potassium symptoms and SACD symptoms that are regressed to functional levels but nor perfect.
However, this summer I was re-establishing my supplements. So now I am taking the Deadlock Quartet and the basics. I have gone off all extra B1, B2 B3, biotin and pantithine.
1 year ago - 20mg/day of Metafolin and barely controlling insufficiency symptoms
Today - 4mg of Metafolin has maintained me paradoxical folate insufficiency symptom free
1 year AGO - 3000 mg/day potassium barely maintaining
Today - 1500mg/day potassium adequately maintains my potassium levels
1 year ago - CNS healing stopped and deteriorated until B2, B3 were stopped
Today - CNS healing re-established
1 year ago - stubborn abdominal organ fat (metabolic syndrome) won't come off and hadn't for decades. Today I am 30 pounds less and almost all of it was the abdominal organ fat. My body density has reached a new high. 10 years ago I couldn't sink in a pool even with empty lungs. 5 years ago I could sink with empty lungs. This year I can sink to the bottom with 2/3 full lungs. My muscles are mostly restored and look more like when I was 22. I have NEVER had the type of definition I am getting now with so much subcutaneous fat gone now. I can't keep my pants up without a belt.
So, 10 years ago I was taking a B-50 formula twice a day and went straight to hyper response driven by b1, b2 and b3. With the 100mg/day of b1, b2, b3 it went straight to barely controllable high Metafolin and potassium. Even after I went to the B-Right I continued 100mg of b1. Finally I discontinued the b1 and suddenly the need for Metafolin and potassium quieted down.
So for those seeking to NOT overdrive these cycles and NOT force undesirable balances, stop all the extras before starting with the Deadlock Quartet. NOW things make a lot more sense. The active b12s and folate and carnitine don't DRIVE these cycles. Biotin, B1, B2 , B3 and maybe pantithine drive these cycles and determine how the deadlock quartet are used.
Everybody is perfectly free to believe whatever they want to. I prefer to use a working hypothesis that can change with results.
I am starting a titration of B1 (low and slow, 25mg additional a day to start and only increase it once a month until II see when and how the effect changes.) to see the effect on CNS healing. I would like to speed that up without driving up folate and potassium needs uncontrollably.
Mixing theories with the Active B12 protocol just gets things all messed up. Maybe hundreds of mg of b1 can be helpful with mostly inactive cobalamins (for most people, about 1% do have full healing startup effects with them) like HyCbl and CyCbl and folic acid but with the active products, B1's (and other vitamins) activity is vastly increased. I will be adding "detox" definitions as triggered by excess B1, B2 and B3 in preliminary form soon.
Good health to all of you.
In this 10 years, I have progressively healed from CFS, FMS and congestive heart failure. In all my fall backs non of the HEALED symptoms came back. So most of my further trouble has been recurrent paradoxical folate deficiency transient symptoms, transient low potassium symptoms and SACD symptoms that are regressed to functional levels but nor perfect.
However, this summer I was re-establishing my supplements. So now I am taking the Deadlock Quartet and the basics. I have gone off all extra B1, B2 B3, biotin and pantithine.
1 year ago - 20mg/day of Metafolin and barely controlling insufficiency symptoms
Today - 4mg of Metafolin has maintained me paradoxical folate insufficiency symptom free
1 year AGO - 3000 mg/day potassium barely maintaining
Today - 1500mg/day potassium adequately maintains my potassium levels
1 year ago - CNS healing stopped and deteriorated until B2, B3 were stopped
Today - CNS healing re-established
1 year ago - stubborn abdominal organ fat (metabolic syndrome) won't come off and hadn't for decades. Today I am 30 pounds less and almost all of it was the abdominal organ fat. My body density has reached a new high. 10 years ago I couldn't sink in a pool even with empty lungs. 5 years ago I could sink with empty lungs. This year I can sink to the bottom with 2/3 full lungs. My muscles are mostly restored and look more like when I was 22. I have NEVER had the type of definition I am getting now with so much subcutaneous fat gone now. I can't keep my pants up without a belt.
So, 10 years ago I was taking a B-50 formula twice a day and went straight to hyper response driven by b1, b2 and b3. With the 100mg/day of b1, b2, b3 it went straight to barely controllable high Metafolin and potassium. Even after I went to the B-Right I continued 100mg of b1. Finally I discontinued the b1 and suddenly the need for Metafolin and potassium quieted down.
So for those seeking to NOT overdrive these cycles and NOT force undesirable balances, stop all the extras before starting with the Deadlock Quartet. NOW things make a lot more sense. The active b12s and folate and carnitine don't DRIVE these cycles. Biotin, B1, B2 , B3 and maybe pantithine drive these cycles and determine how the deadlock quartet are used.
Everybody is perfectly free to believe whatever they want to. I prefer to use a working hypothesis that can change with results.
I am starting a titration of B1 (low and slow, 25mg additional a day to start and only increase it once a month until II see when and how the effect changes.) to see the effect on CNS healing. I would like to speed that up without driving up folate and potassium needs uncontrollably.
Mixing theories with the Active B12 protocol just gets things all messed up. Maybe hundreds of mg of b1 can be helpful with mostly inactive cobalamins (for most people, about 1% do have full healing startup effects with them) like HyCbl and CyCbl and folic acid but with the active products, B1's (and other vitamins) activity is vastly increased. I will be adding "detox" definitions as triggered by excess B1, B2 and B3 in preliminary form soon.
Good health to all of you.