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raised liver enzymes?

Fuzzyhead

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I have been getting new symptoms the last 5 months which started with vertigo, head pressure that lasted 6 weeks and then fatigue, headaches,nausea, loose bowels started. My gp did my bloods and my liver function was raised but all the others were ok. I have been for a scan today and she checked my liver, kidneys, gall bladder and spleen and they were all ok apart from a 2cm gallstone which i have had for years.
I have read that raised liver function tests are quite common with people with m.e, has anyone else had this?
 

Little Bluestem

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I have raised liver enzymes. Is that the same as raised liver function? It has been corrected. I do not know if it was part of the ME.
 
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I have been getting new symptoms the last 5 months which started with vertigo, head pressure that lasted 6 weeks and then fatigue, headaches,nausea, loose bowels started. My gp did my bloods and my liver function was raised but all the others were ok. I have been for a scan today and she checked my liver, kidneys, gall bladder and spleen and they were all ok apart from a 2cm gallstone which i have had for years.
I have read that raised liver function tests are quite common with people with m.e, has anyone else had this?


I have raised liver enzymes for many years now, caused by a medication many years ago. I also have gallstones, which may or may not contribute depending if the bile flow is obstructed. Liver enzymes often go up if on meds. I take none for over ten years. Some Vits such as Bs, can also cause raised liver enzymes if you can't tolerate, and so can tumeric/curcumin. I can't metabolize those either. Vit Bs, stores in the liver for up to six months. If I do take those, its usually once a week, no more, or I get liver pains and raised liver enzymes.
 

Fuzzyhead

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I have been taking multivitamins for the last 12 months and my bloods showed high levels of vitb12 and folate so it could be that. My gp said to stop taking them.
 

_June

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I posted when you asked about the gallbladder.
My gallbladder problems came with high liver enzymes (non-alcoholic fatty liver)

It all corrected itself immediately when my mom came take care of me and I had to eat what she cooked for me since I had no energy to cook. She cooked me high-cholesterol foods, and I didn't have any money so I couldn't buy bread, rice, pasta, those sort of things I usually bought.

I had been eating a very low-fat diet for years trying to prevent gallbladder attacks. And when it didn't work, I always ate even less fat. Eventually I only ate 4 grams of fat per day (5% the RDA of fat) and my problems were worse than ever, yet I still only blamed myself for being lazy and stupid and weak! I mean, how much more could I avoid fat? Even a banana has 1g of fat!


The advice to eat no fat if you have gallbladder problems is wrong. You get gallbladder problems because you are not eating fat. The problem started precisely because I already ate low-fat.

I'm just lucky my mom came take care of me or I'd still be sick to this day. Whatever you do don't get your gallbladder removed. It has a very important job in your body.

I can eat grains again after I got better, but only a couple times per week, and only if they're traditionally prepared (sourdough bread, beans soaked in acidic water, fresh cornflower soaked in raw yogurt for hours, etc)

But I always have to eat a high-cholesterol diet, saturated fat and cholesterol now take atleast 75% of my calories and I don't have any problems anymore.
 
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I agree about NOT having the gallbladder removed. I refused the surgery. There are herbs such as oregon grape root, alfalfa (for liver), dandelion (for liver), fenugreek, etc..and varioius gallstones and liver flush. Unfortunately, I can't do these, but I can take seabuckthorn oil and juice, and Vit C, to melt away the stones, mop up cholesterol, and for bile flow. Many choose surgery and pay for it dearly later on...
 
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I have been taking multivitamins for the last 12 months and my bloods showed high levels of vitb12 and folate so it could be that. My gp said to stop taking them.

Yes, that's why I prefer to source foods (allergies permitting)...Besides, anything synthetic even when sourced from foods, is not working in synergy with thousands other nutrients we don't know about. I read the other day, that we don't even know all the nutrients in an apple..
 

Fuzzyhead

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I know it's difficult to know what to do for the best for our bodies, we read that many different things that are supposed to help and what vitamins we might be deficient in. I have had m.e for 12 yrs and don't know what's happened in the last 5 months, I feel awful, depression, anxiety, headaches, night sweats, nausea, fatigue, loose bowels, insomnia. I am fed up trying to find a reason why I have gone this bad.
 
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Yes, sorry you are going through this too. Tired of looking explainations for whats and why is happening to us. Had a few good weeks before onslaught of disabling symptoms, which for the most part nobody can explain...SIGH.
 

Fuzzyhead

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I know you just get used to a whole load of symptoms and then you get another load of new symptoms just to keep us on our toes. I just wish they would find a cure or a definite answer to what causes it.
 

_June

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I know you just get used to a whole load of symptoms and then you get another load of new symptoms just to keep us on our toes. I just wish they would find a cure or a definite answer to what causes it.
Hello?
I told you what caused it and what cured it for me?

But I don't blame you, if someone told me about it back when I was sick, I wouldn't believe it either.
Actually while I was sick my mom told me to eat lots of lard and beef and I yelled at her :( And what do you know... she was right.
She's visiting me this April and I'm going to have to give her a big hug for giving me my life back.
 

Little Bluestem

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Yes it's the same. Did it just correct by itself?
No. I had more going on that just the liver enzymes. I did the somewhat controversial Vitamin B2 protocol. My doctor, who I do not think was aware of the mineral imbalances my dietitian had found, recommended milk thistle. I am now making sure my doctor has a copy of my hair mineral test results.
 

taniaaust1

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I had raised liver enzymes during the first year of ME.. doctors thought I had hepatitis at one point.

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I have been getting new symptoms the last 5 months which started with vertigo, head pressure that lasted 6 weeks and then fatigue, headaches,nausea, loose bowels started​

it sounds to me like you may of developed orthostatic intollerance of some kind eg dysautonomia (quite normal to get with ME). It could be POTS or another form of dysautonomia. Dysautonomia can affect the bowels and give nausea too.

Ive also replied to some of your other posts so hopefully something said will help.
 

taniaaust1

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I have been taking multivitamins for the last 12 months and my bloods showed high levels of vitb12 and folate so it could be that. My gp said to stop taking them.

the high levels could be meaningless. Some of us cant use folate well (I have a MTHFR polymorphism so normal folate no good for me, I need to take active forms as my body cant convert it) and also have issues with B12. My B12 is extremely high (I took hydroxyl B12 injections twice a week for years) but my specialist had me change the form I was taking , he said it was essential I keep taking B12. This has really helped me (the form I was previously on was wrong for me. Im now taking methyl B12 under the tongue).