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Previously on this board, there has been some discussion of fecal transplants.
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/show...oms-of-Parkinson-s-(and-CFS)&highlight=faecal
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/show...herapy)-DIY-home-version-very-straightforward
Here, Dr. Sarah Myhill talks about the do-it-yourself procedure:
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Faecal_bacteriotherapy
Here are a bunch of articles suggesting that this is a perfectly legitimate form of treatment at least for treatment of c. difficile, but possibly for a wide variety of conditions:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ome-fecal-transplants-to-cure-disease/251793/
http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...1/the_enema_of_your_enemy_is_your_friend.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...=fecal-transplants-the-straight-poop-12-01-31
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swapping-germs
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/fecal-transplants-work/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDcia_uqf3k
So backing up a bit: I don't think that the gut dysbiosis is the core "cause" of CFS. I think that this is a disease that is at its core one of toxicity, and specifically a biotoxin illness.
However, biotoxins have all kinds of negative effects on the body. For instance, the reason that some species of mold makes poison is to kill off competitive microorganisms in the environment, so that it can grow more widely. If mold poison can kill off environmental bacteria, then it makes sense to me that it would do the same thing in the gut -- wiping out a variety of normal bacteria and leaving a few odd (and possibly pathogenic) strains to flourish.
I have made tremendous progress with my health over the past four years. However, in general -- and in particular during the last year -- my gut has taken a real beating. I did a whole lot of detox of various toxins through my gut, and I also identified a really problematic parasite (a fish tapeworm) in my small intestine that released a lot of toxins when it died.
So my gut is a mess at the moment. I've been using a variety of treatments (including homemade kefir, homemade probiotic yogurt, herbs and diet) to ease it back into shape, but it still seems to have a ways to go.
Maybe it will heal up on its own. But considering how effective fecal transplants seem to be in restoring gut ecology almost immediately, I'm sort of interested.
I actually have a candidate for this: a colonics therapist who has an interest in this with regard to her work. She is in her 30's, has lived her whole life in Palm Springs (a place where I run into tons of people who have recovered from CFS "spontaneously" -- it feels good to me too, toxin-wise), has no health problems, has a 10-year-old son with no health or behavior problems, seems wholly emotionally stable, has a pretty healthy diet and looks radiant. She says if we go ahead with it, she would start a blog about it.
So I'm kind of thinking about doing this.
In truth, probably I can get my gut in shape regardless. I'm just kind of curious to see how well this would work.
Is anyone familiar with any CFS patients who have already done this?
Does anybody have any thoughts?
Best, Lisa
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/show...oms-of-Parkinson-s-(and-CFS)&highlight=faecal
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/show...herapy)-DIY-home-version-very-straightforward
Here, Dr. Sarah Myhill talks about the do-it-yourself procedure:
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Faecal_bacteriotherapy
Here are a bunch of articles suggesting that this is a perfectly legitimate form of treatment at least for treatment of c. difficile, but possibly for a wide variety of conditions:
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ome-fecal-transplants-to-cure-disease/251793/
http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...1/the_enema_of_your_enemy_is_your_friend.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/p...=fecal-transplants-the-straight-poop-12-01-31
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swapping-germs
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/fecal-transplants-work/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDcia_uqf3k
So backing up a bit: I don't think that the gut dysbiosis is the core "cause" of CFS. I think that this is a disease that is at its core one of toxicity, and specifically a biotoxin illness.
However, biotoxins have all kinds of negative effects on the body. For instance, the reason that some species of mold makes poison is to kill off competitive microorganisms in the environment, so that it can grow more widely. If mold poison can kill off environmental bacteria, then it makes sense to me that it would do the same thing in the gut -- wiping out a variety of normal bacteria and leaving a few odd (and possibly pathogenic) strains to flourish.
I have made tremendous progress with my health over the past four years. However, in general -- and in particular during the last year -- my gut has taken a real beating. I did a whole lot of detox of various toxins through my gut, and I also identified a really problematic parasite (a fish tapeworm) in my small intestine that released a lot of toxins when it died.
So my gut is a mess at the moment. I've been using a variety of treatments (including homemade kefir, homemade probiotic yogurt, herbs and diet) to ease it back into shape, but it still seems to have a ways to go.
Maybe it will heal up on its own. But considering how effective fecal transplants seem to be in restoring gut ecology almost immediately, I'm sort of interested.
I actually have a candidate for this: a colonics therapist who has an interest in this with regard to her work. She is in her 30's, has lived her whole life in Palm Springs (a place where I run into tons of people who have recovered from CFS "spontaneously" -- it feels good to me too, toxin-wise), has no health problems, has a 10-year-old son with no health or behavior problems, seems wholly emotionally stable, has a pretty healthy diet and looks radiant. She says if we go ahead with it, she would start a blog about it.
So I'm kind of thinking about doing this.
In truth, probably I can get my gut in shape regardless. I'm just kind of curious to see how well this would work.
Is anyone familiar with any CFS patients who have already done this?
Does anybody have any thoughts?
Best, Lisa