Wayne
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Cautionary Note: Fairly long post...
I had an interesting phone conversation (exactly two weeks ago today) with someone I had never met before. This person (Chris; a 55-yr old man) feels hes completely recovered from chronic Lyme, and has been more than willing to share what he feels worked so well for him. I was given his phone number by my acupuncturist because he's aware of my own Lyme diagnosis.
I wasn't doing very well at the time of our conversation, and although I did take some notes, I cant vouch for the complete accuracy of my recollections. But as I remember, he said he believes he had Lyme for about 12 years, and by 2009, felt he had come close to dying from it. It was about this time that he finally got a Lyme diagnosis.
He has a strong orientation toward alternative health care solutions, but when he started doing some research on Lyme, discovered there were not many success stories out there with most of the better known Lyme protocols (either conventional or alternative). He ended up focusing in on homeopathy, thinking this might give him the best chance of success, and discovered a formula called:
C128 - LD Nosodes Formula, by Biogetica
As I remember, he feels he improved about 80% within the first few days of taking it. After using this for a while, he either switched over to the homeopathic remedy Ledum, or started taking Ledum in conjunction with the nosodes formula. He stressed that Ledum is a remedy that has to be taken in a very high strength for it to be effective. As I remember, he felt he was entirely well within a month, and had virtually no herx reactions along the way.
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An interesting thing then happened about a year later. He again became very sick, but with symptoms much different than his original Lyme symptoms. His doctor, who doesnt believe Lyme bacteria can ever be totally eradicated from the body, was convinced he had relapsed with Lyme, and so had him tested with what he thought was the most accurate Lyme testing available (not sure where that was). Much to his doctors surprise, Chris came back negative on all the Lyme tests.
They then began to focus on whether he was dealing with some sort of autoimmune situation. Chris immediately began researching it, and soon discovered there are around 80 or so different autoimmune conditions that he might be dealing with. He went back to his homeopathic orientation, and tried to match up his particular symptoms with a remedy that might be effective for his particular condition. He found one (not sure which one, or whether he got it from Biogetica), and said he went into remission within an hour of taking his first dose. Hes totally well and working today.
Just before finishing our conversation, he recommended a book for me to read entitled,
The Homeopathic Treatment of Lyme Disease, By Peter Alex, Naturopathic Physician
At $32.50, Im not sure I want to spend that much money on it, but he said its very insightful.
Chris, who freely shares whats worked for him, considers what hes doing as sort of missionary work, and has never charged anything for assisting other people. He claims hes worked with 14 other people with chronic Lyme, and that 13 of them have gotten well. And he finds it very gratifying to be able to share what hes learned so he can help others.
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Chris advised me to purchase the C128 - LD Nosodes Formula, and so I did ($39 + 8.85 shipping), and received it last Thursday (8 days ago). Ive since learned there are at least two other websites that have it cheaper:
MHP Nosodes - $16.50
Nutrition Dynamics - $24.00
Regarding my own experiences since starting this formula 8 days ago: It arrived late in the afternoon, and I only did one "spray" that first day. But I noticed a pretty significant shift right away. I got sort of a sense of "clarity" within the first hour, and then noticed a bit of a "buzz", as in a slight stimulant.
I then fell asleep for over an hour, and woke up feeling quite differently than I normally do after a nap like that. Usually I wake up feeling very, very groggy, and often quite sickly. Instead, I woke up feeling somewhat "luxuriously" relaxed, and though tired, did not have the normal sense of nausea.
Since then (the ensuing 7 days), Ive noticed more of the above in a consistent pattern, which seems to be building on my first days experience. Im sleeping somewhat better (even going to bed earlier than I normally had). And I seem to be experiencing a much greater relaxation throughout my days. It's like the "static" in my brain and neurological system has been notched down a bit.
I feel Ive also been experiencing some rather mild herx reactions. My ability to talk and listen went through some pretty significant down cycles. I also had some intermittent periods of experiencing some unusually deep nausea. (Ive since found that the homeopathic remedy nux vomica helps considerably when the nausea gets a bit intense.) Ive also had some unusual achiness in my spine (which as I understand is where colonies of Lyme bacteria often hang out).
So, this formula seems to have evoked some kind of immune response for me. And though sometimes a bit unpleasant, doesnt seem to be anywhere near the kinds of intense herx reactions that many people experience with various kinds of antiobiotic therapy. It also seems to be somewhat less intense than some of the reactions I would sometimes get from doing Rife frequencies.
In just the past couple days, it feels like my cognitive capabilities (and ability to talk and listen) have been a bit more consistent as well, which is why I thought Id attempt this long post this morning. I hope its intelligible. :Retro smile: At this point, I'm feeling fairly optimistic about what the coming days and weeks might bring. Hopefully it will be more good news.
I might just add, that even though I'm experiencing a greater relaxation, better sleep, improved mental clarity, and a bit more energy, I have to say it hasnt really significantly improved my overall functionality as of yet. I feel better and more comfortable overall, but the persistent vertigo that I deal with (and more) continues to curtail my daily activities. But Im hopeful.
Best Regards, Wayne
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Here are the homeopathic ingredients in the LD 128 Formula:
2 Fluid Ounces
Composition:
Shujin Chih 2X
Angelica Archangelica 2X
Du Huo 2X
Hydrastis Canadensis 3X
Kali Muriaticum 3X
Manganum Metallicum 3X
Yucca Filamentosa 3X
Rhus Toxicodendron 5X
Hordeum Vulgare 8X
Latrodectus Mactans 10X
Oxalicum Acidum 8X, 12X
Magnesia Phosphorica 2X, 3X, 6X
Cartilage 3X, 6X, 12X
Arnica Montana 8X, 100X, 1000X
Syphilinum 12X, 30X, 60X
Lyme Nosode 15X, 30X, 60X, 100X
I had an interesting phone conversation (exactly two weeks ago today) with someone I had never met before. This person (Chris; a 55-yr old man) feels hes completely recovered from chronic Lyme, and has been more than willing to share what he feels worked so well for him. I was given his phone number by my acupuncturist because he's aware of my own Lyme diagnosis.
I wasn't doing very well at the time of our conversation, and although I did take some notes, I cant vouch for the complete accuracy of my recollections. But as I remember, he said he believes he had Lyme for about 12 years, and by 2009, felt he had come close to dying from it. It was about this time that he finally got a Lyme diagnosis.
He has a strong orientation toward alternative health care solutions, but when he started doing some research on Lyme, discovered there were not many success stories out there with most of the better known Lyme protocols (either conventional or alternative). He ended up focusing in on homeopathy, thinking this might give him the best chance of success, and discovered a formula called:
C128 - LD Nosodes Formula, by Biogetica
As I remember, he feels he improved about 80% within the first few days of taking it. After using this for a while, he either switched over to the homeopathic remedy Ledum, or started taking Ledum in conjunction with the nosodes formula. He stressed that Ledum is a remedy that has to be taken in a very high strength for it to be effective. As I remember, he felt he was entirely well within a month, and had virtually no herx reactions along the way.
...........................................................
An interesting thing then happened about a year later. He again became very sick, but with symptoms much different than his original Lyme symptoms. His doctor, who doesnt believe Lyme bacteria can ever be totally eradicated from the body, was convinced he had relapsed with Lyme, and so had him tested with what he thought was the most accurate Lyme testing available (not sure where that was). Much to his doctors surprise, Chris came back negative on all the Lyme tests.
They then began to focus on whether he was dealing with some sort of autoimmune situation. Chris immediately began researching it, and soon discovered there are around 80 or so different autoimmune conditions that he might be dealing with. He went back to his homeopathic orientation, and tried to match up his particular symptoms with a remedy that might be effective for his particular condition. He found one (not sure which one, or whether he got it from Biogetica), and said he went into remission within an hour of taking his first dose. Hes totally well and working today.
Just before finishing our conversation, he recommended a book for me to read entitled,
The Homeopathic Treatment of Lyme Disease, By Peter Alex, Naturopathic Physician
At $32.50, Im not sure I want to spend that much money on it, but he said its very insightful.
Chris, who freely shares whats worked for him, considers what hes doing as sort of missionary work, and has never charged anything for assisting other people. He claims hes worked with 14 other people with chronic Lyme, and that 13 of them have gotten well. And he finds it very gratifying to be able to share what hes learned so he can help others.
.............................................
Chris advised me to purchase the C128 - LD Nosodes Formula, and so I did ($39 + 8.85 shipping), and received it last Thursday (8 days ago). Ive since learned there are at least two other websites that have it cheaper:
MHP Nosodes - $16.50
Nutrition Dynamics - $24.00
Regarding my own experiences since starting this formula 8 days ago: It arrived late in the afternoon, and I only did one "spray" that first day. But I noticed a pretty significant shift right away. I got sort of a sense of "clarity" within the first hour, and then noticed a bit of a "buzz", as in a slight stimulant.
I then fell asleep for over an hour, and woke up feeling quite differently than I normally do after a nap like that. Usually I wake up feeling very, very groggy, and often quite sickly. Instead, I woke up feeling somewhat "luxuriously" relaxed, and though tired, did not have the normal sense of nausea.
Since then (the ensuing 7 days), Ive noticed more of the above in a consistent pattern, which seems to be building on my first days experience. Im sleeping somewhat better (even going to bed earlier than I normally had). And I seem to be experiencing a much greater relaxation throughout my days. It's like the "static" in my brain and neurological system has been notched down a bit.
I feel Ive also been experiencing some rather mild herx reactions. My ability to talk and listen went through some pretty significant down cycles. I also had some intermittent periods of experiencing some unusually deep nausea. (Ive since found that the homeopathic remedy nux vomica helps considerably when the nausea gets a bit intense.) Ive also had some unusual achiness in my spine (which as I understand is where colonies of Lyme bacteria often hang out).
So, this formula seems to have evoked some kind of immune response for me. And though sometimes a bit unpleasant, doesnt seem to be anywhere near the kinds of intense herx reactions that many people experience with various kinds of antiobiotic therapy. It also seems to be somewhat less intense than some of the reactions I would sometimes get from doing Rife frequencies.
In just the past couple days, it feels like my cognitive capabilities (and ability to talk and listen) have been a bit more consistent as well, which is why I thought Id attempt this long post this morning. I hope its intelligible. :Retro smile: At this point, I'm feeling fairly optimistic about what the coming days and weeks might bring. Hopefully it will be more good news.
I might just add, that even though I'm experiencing a greater relaxation, better sleep, improved mental clarity, and a bit more energy, I have to say it hasnt really significantly improved my overall functionality as of yet. I feel better and more comfortable overall, but the persistent vertigo that I deal with (and more) continues to curtail my daily activities. But Im hopeful.
Best Regards, Wayne
...........................................................
Here are the homeopathic ingredients in the LD 128 Formula:
2 Fluid Ounces
Composition:
Shujin Chih 2X
Angelica Archangelica 2X
Du Huo 2X
Hydrastis Canadensis 3X
Kali Muriaticum 3X
Manganum Metallicum 3X
Yucca Filamentosa 3X
Rhus Toxicodendron 5X
Hordeum Vulgare 8X
Latrodectus Mactans 10X
Oxalicum Acidum 8X, 12X
Magnesia Phosphorica 2X, 3X, 6X
Cartilage 3X, 6X, 12X
Arnica Montana 8X, 100X, 1000X
Syphilinum 12X, 30X, 60X
Lyme Nosode 15X, 30X, 60X, 100X