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Raising your glutathione levels has been shown to help some patients, and the idea has been around for a while.
Here is a link to a study the Dr Cheney did a while ago:
http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/whey.html
Since then, from what i have read, Dr Cheney has moved away from using Whey Protein to raise glutathione levels, partly because some people are intolerant to whey protein, and partly in favour of dealing with the route cause. I know that raising glutathione is a big part of Rich's methylation protocol which has helped a number of people.
I agree with dealing with the route cause, but i also want to take whey protein to help out too, and also as a means of understnading if i have a methylation problem, as if on whey protein i improve, because of increased Glutathione, then perhaps that shows i have a methylation issue. Id be interested in whether Rich thinks this is a worthwhile test or not.
Two of the main building blocks in whey protein are cysteine and glutamine. But heat, and other harsh treatments break them down. So, if you buy whey protein tha has been pasturied then it probably will do little for you.
The stuff you need is undenatured whey protein, but this term is very misleading on the labels. Most 'undenatured' whey actually has been pasturised previously before the curds and whey were split in the cheese making process. So, although it is not denatured again it has already lost its positive properties. So, if you have tried Whey Protein but not benefitted, that might be because it wasnt genuinely undenatured!
Ive looked into what is available that it truely fully undenatured and have found a few products. They are all more expensive that the other poorly labeled versions because the process is more complex.
The main one used in the research seems to have been:
* Immunocal - $99 (66) for 300g
AND
* ImuPlus - $69.95 for 600g [$35 per 300g]
Another one mentioned is * ImmunoPro - $45.49 for 300g which some people didnt tollerate as well.
In addition i have found these that appear to be fully undenatured, though i have emailed some that arent 100% explicit to ask for full clarity on that fact. So if any come back false, i will post again with that info.
* ImmunPlex (ProHealth's ownbrand) - $30.49 for 306g
* RenewPro - $39.95 for 300g
* Vital Whey Natural 35.49 ($55.80) for 600g [$28 per 300g]
Has anyone had any experience with any of these products? Or do you know of any other truely undenatured products to add to this list? I plan to buy one of these and see if i get any benefit.
Best
Here is a link to a study the Dr Cheney did a while ago:
http://www.dfwcfids.org/medical/whey.html
Since then, from what i have read, Dr Cheney has moved away from using Whey Protein to raise glutathione levels, partly because some people are intolerant to whey protein, and partly in favour of dealing with the route cause. I know that raising glutathione is a big part of Rich's methylation protocol which has helped a number of people.
I agree with dealing with the route cause, but i also want to take whey protein to help out too, and also as a means of understnading if i have a methylation problem, as if on whey protein i improve, because of increased Glutathione, then perhaps that shows i have a methylation issue. Id be interested in whether Rich thinks this is a worthwhile test or not.
Two of the main building blocks in whey protein are cysteine and glutamine. But heat, and other harsh treatments break them down. So, if you buy whey protein tha has been pasturied then it probably will do little for you.
The stuff you need is undenatured whey protein, but this term is very misleading on the labels. Most 'undenatured' whey actually has been pasturised previously before the curds and whey were split in the cheese making process. So, although it is not denatured again it has already lost its positive properties. So, if you have tried Whey Protein but not benefitted, that might be because it wasnt genuinely undenatured!
Ive looked into what is available that it truely fully undenatured and have found a few products. They are all more expensive that the other poorly labeled versions because the process is more complex.
The main one used in the research seems to have been:
* Immunocal - $99 (66) for 300g
AND
* ImuPlus - $69.95 for 600g [$35 per 300g]
Another one mentioned is * ImmunoPro - $45.49 for 300g which some people didnt tollerate as well.
In addition i have found these that appear to be fully undenatured, though i have emailed some that arent 100% explicit to ask for full clarity on that fact. So if any come back false, i will post again with that info.
* ImmunPlex (ProHealth's ownbrand) - $30.49 for 306g
* RenewPro - $39.95 for 300g
* Vital Whey Natural 35.49 ($55.80) for 600g [$28 per 300g]
Has anyone had any experience with any of these products? Or do you know of any other truely undenatured products to add to this list? I plan to buy one of these and see if i get any benefit.
Best