Vaccines, CFIDS/ME, GWI, HIV, Lyme, Flouride

[markmc20001]

Hi people,

Vaccines, CFIDS/ME, GWI, HIV, Lyme, Flouride. Most, if not all these have something in common. Complete negligence and disregard by governments now or in the past.

I've ventured off into some websites of alternative doctors like Dr Gary Null and Dr Tennpenny in search for answers. With just a quick cursory look it becomes quickly glaringly clear that many of sick groups face the same kinds of political challenges as CFS patients.

I've frnally come to the conclusion we are not only involved in only proving science. The lights are flashing bright red we are battling corruption, politics, and corporate control of governments.

My point for bringing this up is, until everybody comes to grip with what is really going on it might be difficult to fully make progress. Until people widely accept and understand the level of corporate influence and how it all works, we are screwed and they are sure to continue their tricks, manipulation, and selective science.

If you look at AIDS for instance, from the article below it seems many established AIDS organizations receive money from Wellcome Burroughs. Have a quick look at the article below and you will get my point.

Anyways, I know some here are scientists or doctors and can't call the crooks out because you might be subject to the cold shoulder at the next conference, or even worse might face retaliation by your University. I'm just trying to bring up the concept so it becomes more widely accepted and we can battle the problem in the proper context in mind. I think generally people are waking up becuase of the internet, but obviously it's still never fast enough.

I sure feel sorry for the doctors who step up and try to help like Dr Judy Mikovits, Or Kenneth Friedman and are faced with the kind of stonewalling and outright corruption they have to deal with when they are trying to use pure science in response. God bless you.

http://www.garynull.com/home/aids-inc-observations-of-an-aids-dissident.html

POZ, boasts photography by Bruce Weber and Herb Ritts, and features brief, glittering profiles of the 50 most influential AIDS policy makers, including Robert Gallo, Tony Fauci, Sam Broder, Jonathan Mann, Mathilde Krim, David Barry of Burroughs Wellcome, and of course, the high elite of New York AIDS activism, Peter Staley, Mark Harrington, and Greg Gonsalves, who departed from Act Up to form the pharmaceutically-funded, by-invitation-only AIDS "activist" group TAG (Treatment Action Group.) TAG (shall we call them "price-TAG") has received thousands from Burroughs Wellcome and Lord knows who else, yet they maintain their leftist, morally superior stance. They allegedly meet in a New York Penthouse apartment and have filmed themselves aboard Staley's father's yacht, taking psychedelic drugs and ruminating about AIDS. Radical Chic, I guess. They do not apologise for their brazen relations with the pharmaceutical industry. When TAG took its first $10,000 from Burroughs Wellcome, Staley was quoted as saying: "It's hard to find an AIDS organisation that hasn't taken money from Burroughs Wellcome." (With activists like these, who needs an establishment!)

 

[markmc20001]

This is an article from March 2006.

http://www.vaccineinitiative.org/?p=202

A former Government medical officer responsible for deciding whether medicines are safe has accused the Government of utterly inexplicable complacency over the MMR triple vaccine for children.

Dr Peter Fletcher, who was Chief Scientific Officer at the Department of Health, said if it is proven that the jab causes autism, the refusal by governments to evaluate the risks properly will make this one of the greatest scandals in medical history.

He added that after agreeing to be an expert witness on drug-safety trials for parents lawyers, he had received and studied thousands of documents relating to the case which he believed the public had a right to see.

He said he has seen a steady accumulation of evidence from scientists worldwide that the measles, mumps and rubella jab is causing brain damage in certain children.

 

[SaveMe]

not to mention Gulf War Syndrome.

Some f**k*** call me crazy, but the Hep B Vaccine took away my youth. 19 years of age, what a damn shame

 

[markmc20001]

not to mention Gulf War Syndrome.

Some f**k*** call me crazy, but the Hep B Vaccine took away my youth. 19 years of age, what a damn shame

You have a right to be pissed!

I hear ya. I hope you let your congressman, senators, department of health and human services know how pissed you are, what you have lost, and you are on to their game. Tell the dang president of the United States. Tell them they should kick the dang BIG pharma and lobbyists out of office and start funding some serious research NOW! Tell them they need to stop this mess so it doesn't drag on another 30 years while this pandemic spreads and they are twittling their thumbs and funding next to zero research. Tell them to get the special interests out of advisory panels.

However, don't forget...Please be easy on your fellow CFS'ers and doctors who want to help! They are your allies.

Pace yourself, it's a long road.

We need your good energy and youth my friend!

Thanks!
Mark

 

[SaveMe]

First person with some serious insight; You must be eating alot of salmon or blueberries... or both!

Not sure if you know my story, but I was a tennis player, graduated with an exceptional GPA, worked as a bank teller and had alot of other opportunities knocking at my door. Around this same time an RN forgot to look at my vaccination record, and injected me with the Hep A + Hep B shots into my left and right deltoid, respectively. After that I had a "mysterious flu" that I never recovered from (and I never get flus) Now my life is a living hell.

I will write to everyone, show them videos, pictures and a written testimony. They don't know who they're messing with.

 

[markmc20001]

Hey SaveMe,

Wanted to mention one other advocacy idea that I feel could be a potential goldmine. A lottery ticket for research so to speak.

I have thought that contacting rich and influential people outside of government circles for help. I thought trying to educate those people about how there is good prospects for research at the WPI for cancers, Autism, CFS, and more. However, they don't have enough monies to move the ball foward enough on their own.

The idea is the government is full of future employees of big pharma, and other special interest which have no interest in trying to solve our health crisis. They have sat by for years we have gone from 1 in 10000 kids being sick to probably much more than 1 in 110.

Everybody talks about US education being weak and how enough kids are not moving ahead. It's balony. Many people are sick and dysfunctional from our little known secret.

 

[markmc20001]

First person with some serious insight; You must be eating alot of salmon or blueberries... or both!

Not sure if you know my story, but I was a tennis player, graduated with an exceptional GPA, worked as a bank teller and had alot of other opportunities knocking at my door. Around this same time an RN forgot to look at my vaccination record, and injected me with the Hep A + Hep B shots into my left and right deltoid, respectively. After that I had a "mysterious flu" that I never recovered from (and I never get flus) Now my life is a living hell.

I will write to everyone, show them videos, pictures and a written testimony. They don't know who they're messing with.

Sorry you lost so much. I had an extremely bright future myself. Many people on here are often talented and intelligent. terrible waste.

 

[kday]

I'm 25 and damn pissed too. I got sick at 22. I used to mountain bike 25 miles a day. I snowboarded 80+ days a year. I wakeboarded and kayaked during the summer.

I worked 3 jobs that I loved working.

That, to nothing. And what's worse is occasionally people think I am doing or did this to myself. WTF is wrong with them? Are they crazy? That's the only conclusion I can make.

And when my doctor told me I wasn't sick, I told her yes I was. I always told her I was sick, and always disagreed with her irrational opinion. I'd walk in the door with a list of 30 symptoms, so therefore I was imagining them? She said that since my basic lab tests didn't show a problem (and she lied as things were low and high), I wasn't sick and just needed a psychiatrist. I never listened to her insanity, so I went for the noncompliant patient stamp on my chart. Apparently I just needed to exercise when I really couldn't physically walk around the block. Oh, and there are plenty of tests that show I am ill, infected, AND immunocompromised.

I feel that other people on the forum feel the same way but nobody allows themselves to rant and vent. Does anyone else feel like they are the only sane person left in this insane world? Oh, right, since I am the one that thinks everyone else is insane, I am the one that is crazy. Sorry, I forgot.

Even though I eventually found out that tick that bit me in the groin before I got sick did indeed infect me with at least 2 infections, things didn't add up when I herxed like hell for many months, and never recovered. I was eventually better then where I was, but not well.

So, I did a little more of my own research, and since I lived nearly at ground zero in Tahoe outbreak, I decided to find a CFS specialist and indeed, after having the VO2 max test was declared physically disabled. I had no growth hormone before and after exercise. None as in 0.0. I had no cortisol response to exercise. I was severely hypercoagulated, and so on.

It's sad when you see so many doctors and "specialists" and you end having to diagnose yourself with the internet. Doctors tell patients not to use the internet when they are completely incompetent. It makes no sense.

And I can't find a doctor that realizes that I need to be treated for viruses and bacterial infections. Not one or the other. It's both. So what am I having to resort to? Treating myself, ordering my own meds and supplements, and running my own labs to monitor my liver function, etc. It seems to work out better this way.

However, if anyone knows anyone in the continental United States that truly knows there stuff about tick-borne disease, CFIDS/ME, and strengthening the immune system, please PM me. I am open to alternative medication that works, but I don't want a doctor that is afraid of prescribing antibiotics or thinks antibiotics are plain evil. I had terrible gastro issues before antibiotics, and with them, I no longer have those issues. I don't understand the theory about about protecting your flora when you have no good flora to begin with. My clinical judgement says that that theory is weak.

 

[roma]

what about ME?

I got an HIV like virus last year i know it was sexually transmitted i have at many different symptoms which some of my HIV + friends have but since my tests don't show anything than there's nothing wrong with me and im just stressed out, like i could stress myself into brain demielynation doctors are really a bunch of morons... anyways i tested many times for HIV and HTLV and it was all negative, i tested for XMRV and is positive.. currently im still working but i don't know for how long im gonna be able to do it, i can barely keep up with work and lately i have terrible pain in my lower back it kinda feels like my back is breaking apart and i know is because i have an infected bone marrow due tho this damn XMRV that has invaded my whole body including my brain, spleen,liver and lungs.

I used to be a really hard worker and i was into sports a lot, used to go to the gym and run 5 to 8 miles nonstop, used to go out every weekend, in general i had a really good life but last year on May 5th i had terrible bad luck and i was sexually involved with somebody that was ha atypical MS but didn't know it, i knew right away there's was something wrong with her because she had a white tongue which usually means a compromised immune system(i have a white tongue now) the damn condom broke and i have been sick since, with all kinds of symptoms that i never had or felt in my life.

At first i thought it was HIV because i had all the typical ARS, the viral onset, but it was ruled out many times, shortly after it was ruled out the doctors just kept telling me that there was nothing wrong with me that i was just scared and i needed a vacation, even after a brain MRI showed brain demyelination they kept tellin me there was nothing wrong with me, i tested for every thing known to man and it was all negative, EBV and hhv6 showed a past not active infection,(but now they are both active and i know is because i have a compromised immune system due to XMRV).

I met many many people in HIV forums that keep thinking they got an HIV infection after unprotected sex but for some reason they keep testing negative and these people truly have something wrong with them just like me they have many symptoms that they couldn't be making up and no surprise at all the ones that have tested for XMRV are positive.

The saddest thing about this scenario just described above is that people out of desperation keep recommending to each other after many negative HIV tests to go donate blood because they think that the Red Cross has the latest technology and they will catch anything but sadly the donations are always approved and this has been going on for god knows how long so with out a doubt the blood supply is contaminated with XMRV.

I know a lot of people here don't want XMRV to pan out, but in my case there is no other explanation i got a retrovirus that is sexually transmitted and is not HIV or HTLV.

To sum up last year before May i was the healthiest happiest guy on earth i had recently gotten promoted, right now not even a full year later i have many signs of a compromised immune system, i have brain demyelination, IBS,terrible sensitivity to light and sound, skin problems, signs of cell death like bruising that never goes away, no lunulas in my nails, terrible hair loss which i never had, a tongue with white thrush and teethmarks around it (like HIV and HTLV) terrible lower back pain and burning sensation, fatigue, mini seizures, pain in my spleen, liver,lungs and testis and the newest that just got from my doctor, i have a mass in my spleen and one in my lungs..


But according to the blood tests there is absolutely nothing wrong with me and im just crazy..

 

[Navid]

can you find a doc to put you on RAL and Tenofovir....they might work for you...especially if you are a false hiv - right now.

they are talking about putting hiv+ folks who are not active aids (cd counts still high, viral low still low) patient yet on HAART immediately in SF....look it up in google. they just started reporting about it on thurs or fri...this could be used as support for you to bring to your doc to get you on the RAL and TEN.

good luck!!! I am sorry you are sick : (

 

[SaveMe]

"a brain MRI showed brain demyelination"

So that girl who had sex with gave you MS?

 

[roma]

"a brain MRI showed brain demyelination"

So that girl who had sex with gave you MS?

not MS right now a brain MRI does not show demyelination but it does show a couple of specs, demyelination occurs a few weeks after a viral invasion to the brain. she gave me a retrovirus for sure, i have tested positive for XMRV so she gave me XMRV or whatever retrovirus is crossreacting with the XMRV test i took.

 

[roma]

can you find a doc to put you on RAL and Tenofovir....they might work for you...especially if you are a false hiv - right now.

they are talking about putting hiv+ folks who are not active aids (cd counts still high, viral low still low) patient yet on HAART immediately in SF....look it up in google. they just started reporting about it on thurs or fri...this could be used as support for you to bring to your doc to get you on the RAL and TEN.

good luck!!! I am sorry you are sick : (

Im not false HIV - its been ruled out many times i have tested at least 12 times for HIV antibodies and PCR and i have tested 4 times for HTLV negative as well, XMRV test was positive tho so to me there's really no doubt that XMRV is very real, sexuallly transmitted at least in my case and is causing all these health problems. plus the girl i was with also tested negative for HIV.

I have an appoitment with my doctor next Monday and i will ask him to give me some Arvs or antivirals at least very potent ones to see if they make any difference.

 

[Navid]

sorry abt my incorrect assumption on HIV...well that's good news.



good luck on getting the arv's....just push HARD!!!!!

 

[markmc20001]

I'm 25 and damn pissed too. I got sick at 22. I used to mountain bike 25 miles a day. I snowboarded 80+ days a year. I wakeboarded and kayaked during the summer.

I worked 3 jobs that I loved working.

That, to nothing. And what's worse is occasionally people think I am doing or did this to myself. WTF is wrong with them? Are they crazy? That's the only conclusion I can make.

And when my doctor told me I wasn't sick, I told her yes I was. I always told her I was sick, and always disagreed with her irrational opinion. I'd walk in the door with a list of 30 symptoms, so therefore I was imagining them? She said that since my basic lab tests didn't show a problem (and she lied as things were low and high), I wasn't sick and just needed a psychiatrist. I never listened to her insanity, so I went for the noncompliant patient stamp on my chart. Apparently I just needed to exercise when I really couldn't physically walk around the block. Oh, and there are plenty of tests that show I am ill, infected, AND immunocompromised.

I feel that other people on the forum feel the same way but nobody allows themselves to rant and vent. Does anyone else feel like they are the only sane person left in this insane world? Oh, right, since I am the one that thinks everyone else is insane, I am the one that is crazy. Sorry, I forgot.

Even though I eventually found out that tick that bit me in the groin before I got sick did indeed infect me with at least 2 infections, things didn't add up when I herxed like hell for many months, and never recovered. I was eventually better then where I was, but not well.

So, I did a little more of my own research, and since I lived nearly at ground zero in Tahoe outbreak, I decided to find a CFS specialist and indeed, after having the VO2 max test was declared physically disabled. I had no growth hormone before and after exercise. None as in 0.0. I had no cortisol response to exercise. I was severely hypercoagulated, and so on.

It's sad when you see so many doctors and "specialists" and you end having to diagnose yourself with the internet. Doctors tell patients not to use the internet when they are completely incompetent. It makes no sense.

And I can't find a doctor that realizes that I need to be treated for viruses and bacterial infections. Not one or the other. It's both. So what am I having to resort to? Treating myself, ordering my own meds and supplements, and running my own labs to monitor my liver function, etc. It seems to work out better this way.

However, if anyone knows anyone in the continental United States that truly knows there stuff about tick-borne disease, CFIDS/ME, and strengthening the immune system, please PM me. I am open to alternative medication that works, but I don't want a doctor that is afraid of prescribing antibiotics or thinks antibiotics are plain evil. I had terrible gastro issues before antibiotics, and with them, I no longer have those issues. I don't understand the theory about about protecting your flora when you have no good flora to begin with. My clinical judgement says that that theory is weak.

It's good to be pissed, at the right people at least. Governments and big pharma have screwed us since the 80's! I'm pissed, I have lost my damn life! THink we have a right to be pissed and demand change NOW. not lip service. MONEY for research yesterday.

I believe that the psychobabble research released by governments is designed to keep you and your doctor in the dark. Think about it. How many medical articles have people complained about on this forum that makes them seem lazy, depressed, or something else? I think the doctors read that shit and believe it. Then they do all the test, which are designed to find nothing of course. then try and send you packing. Sounds familiar?

Want to see something else funny. Go to the CDC website, and it says to give you CBT or GET. How helpful is that for adrenal fatigue? How many times has a doctor tried to prescribe you antidepressants?

The big pharma companies have all these governments and doctors on a short leash. It's one big crime if you ask me.

 

[markmc20001]

Please be good to naive doctors

Hey folks,

It's hard to like doctors when they don't believe you. However, unfortunately, they only learn what the CDC gives them. It's the CDC's fault, and even more importantly, it's the Big pharma companies employees that essentially run the government agencies like an extension of their business. They do this by getting on the boards, advisory panels. Offering big fat multi-million dollar jobs once the government employee retires from government. They have a name for it, revolving door. Look at Tom Daschle, and where they end up after office. Total golden path to retirement. Bought and paid for. Dick Armey? worst offender. This is no secret, it is how governments work. Unfortunate when we are kept sick because of it.

It all revolves around Doctors medical license. So doctors have to give a specific treatment, or they will loose their license. That's the leverage, so they follow that dang CDC protocol like the bible just to cover their asses.

Plus they read psychobabble and BELIEVE it. No fault of their own, because they have been bombarded for 30 years with the stuff.