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The medical update

I’ve been wanting to post a medical update for awhile. Let’s see if I have it in me…. And if I remember any of this chaotic year in enough detail to do so … 😜

Where did we leave off? I was able to acquire medical transport (an ambulance) to an oral surgeon in June. As you can imagine, they were slightly freaked out by me there with 2 emts and my husband. My once perfect teeth now need surgery…. But… the surgeon said it’s risky with my condition and she will only do it in hospital. So, we also got me to a dentist. They were awesome. Very responsive to what I deal with. I need at least 4 visits of work plus a surgery…. But… no one will touch me because they are waiting on an ok from cardiologist and he won’t give it.

So, I saw a cardiologist, and he was surprisingly incredible and documented that I have severe autonomic dysfunction and he wrote Lyme disease too which surprised me. He isn’t so sure enough was ruled out with Lyme testing etc back in 2017 so he personally called Cleveland Clinic, twice without me asking and asked for me to see a autonomic neurologist stat and a cardiologist and a neurologist.

So, I finally made my way to Cleveland Clinic with volunteers and a van and lots of funny stories and it was a very expensive waste of s trip. Even with my cardiologist calling in, nothing happened. They can’t get me into autonomic neurologist until 2025. Same with cardiologist etc. I was able to grab a July opening with A neurologist. He was not a good neurologist. Understatement. I’ve waited years to see a neurologist. YEARS. Lost the ability to walk. Bathed by nurses and aides. You know. On and on. Annnddddd, I made my bullet point list. Super conservative. Don’t talk about Lyme. Stick to the basics etc. and stay alive ha. This was much too much on my body. Will get to that in a second.

So, he’s a German man and walks in the room and is somewhat aggressive from the get go. I adjust my energy realizing what I’m encountering. He literally didn’t even hear me speak before he began giving me orders and scolding me etc. I started telling him how er drs want it exploded why I keep going into lactic acidosis and metabolic acidosis and I lost the ability to walk. Basic facts. And he goes stop, stop stop. You need to tell me things about why you are here.

Um. Ok.

And he just started getting jumpy and gaslighting me and basically deflecting anything I said. No matter how neutral. I was questioned at times like a police officer would. He even said what, you still think you have Lyme disease? I did not even say anything about Lyme. He saw the cdc positive result on my file. And I responded no, I don’t (white lie, I’m not going into that territory with this fool) and he said let me guess you think your endometriosis was caused by Lyme too. Again, I wouldn’t play into his aggression (at the system, he must feel so helpless to take it out in his patients) and I said no, of course not. Like I was at a school lunchroom table with a bully. The guy was absolutely wild. I can see why he was so easy to get into. He said I do not need a spinal mri. He said no tests will tell us much because I have complex pain syndrome. My friend said but she doesn’t have much pain. Her main complaint is neurological and possibly endocrine issues. He said no no no…, look at her she’s in so much pain. 🫠 and proceeded to press into my adrenals until I almost saw red. I quite obviously have an undiagnosed adrenal disease. This is obvious. A cardiologist and multiple er drs have said I do most likely but need speciality testing. I just privately tested my acth and cortisol this summer and both are low. I didn’t even tell him because he simply. Wouldn’t let me talk and wasn’t receptive. He said I don’t have an adrenal disease. With no testing. He said I didn’t lose ability to walk and my friend said yes, she very much did. Her motor coordination is off, I have ataxia diagnosis in my old hospitalization records and on and on…. Like many falls back when I still could. He said it’s connected to. Endometriosis most likely 😫🙈🫠and complex pain syndrome.

I. Shit. You. Not.

Keep in mind, I never once even complained of gynecological issues. I was basically backed into a corner and told that it was my root cause. Because I had a mild case found during an exploratory surgery in 2013. And…. It was so insane that I only attempted to question his stance a few times. And he kept grabbing his head saying what to do with a patient like you…. He said I’m one of the most complicated neurological cases in existence. With no testing. None. He tested my reflexes and said my right side is worse than my left but wouldn’t speculate on why it’s documented I have no reflexes ankles under etc.

Like, this has to be a bad joke.
Aaaandddd, again, it’s not. We waited for 3 weeks to see the notes of my visit and he wrote after THREE weeks for a requesting physician to request notes and he will provide them 😀😅😂🥳 sooooo, this was great fun. He won’t even let me see my notes. A expensive trip for NOTHING. He did finally decide to order a head only mri and a long eeg but they could not do them for me while I was out there. He told me not to get them done locally…. But what are my options????

So I have now scheduled to get these tests at LEAST 3-4 times. Plus medical transport to them which is $380 a pop. And so much keeps going haywire. For one, both days I’ve had mri scheduled I receive a phonecall from hospital that their mri machine is malfunctioning. And it goes on and on. So, I’m in limbo. Have you ever, in your life… met someone who has tried to get a mri harder than me in 7 years??

I think mostly no.

I was returned half alive.
After 3 hours laying in van, my gut and bladder motility all start shutting down. Thought I was going to need a catheter. Ugh. And eating my purée was becoming scary hard. And my respiratory autonomic function became concerning at times and new coughing. And gasping for air began. So, some friends helped me acquire a portable o2 machine. FINALLY. Bless their hearts. It was intimidating and I was hoping to go through. A dr but this works for now and it really is assisting me. It’s so upsetting drs have not given me access to this previously.

Anyways, I was in rough shape when returned and the good news is my nurse friend was here and surprised me and helped carry me in bed with everyone and waited by my side until I came to it and made me a shake. I had a small seizure type episode or 2 during this trip too. I awoke from it with tears streaming down my face and she just held my hand. She felt like a mother. And I kinda need a mother Somedays it turns out through all of this. Bless everyone who supported me through this journey, you know who you all are and I thank you guys. This was not an easy trip.

Things I’ve decided since:

I’m not ok with partially dying to try to obtain medical help anymore. These guys have mostly lost my trust at this point. It’s not worth it. My quality of life is more important at this point. Any dr that sees a woman has been laying in her bed for 7 years and can’t bathe herself and doesn’t hospitalize her or order stat tests….. is insane in my book. I cannot logically make sense of why you wouldn’t treat this more serious.

His diagnoses were unknown central nervous system demylenation disease and seizure disorder. He referred me to an epilepsy neurologist. And no, he did not discuss his diagnoses with me. We saw them on printed paper afterwards. His diagnoses got me in with a specialist neurologist that focuses on transverse myelitis and infection and autoimmune issues and university of Chicago. So that’s one silver lining of this jack off. I decided I can’t afford to go back to Cleveland Clinic. Physically or financially. It is highly suspected by some in my circle that I had transverse myelitis and it was missed in 2017. But I survived. Kinda. It’s upsetting, because if this is so, there are medications that can assist this at onset in ER. But my case was never taken seriously. You guys know that. Proper testing was never performed.

It’s 2024 and I remain mostly untested neurologically. Never been offered a spinal tap, a spinal mri, no eeg. Etc. Until the eeg past few months I was offered.

Anyways, due to so many testing attempt complications, I have decided to stop trying to reschedule for the 4th? Time and see what this new specialist says. Maybe he will have more sense snd try to arrange a full mri and some other stuff. Because we are financially hurting from my medical bills etc this year. A local church is going to try to do a fundraiser for me in October…. But idk. Bless their hearts for trying 🙏

Wild times.

But you guys kinda know how it goes with me at this point by now….

So, I have had dental infections that no one will touch. Cardiologist said he won’t even give clearance for local and definitely not surgery because he suspects I have serious autonomic dysfunction and he said it can be dangerous in surgery. I don’t know. Oh snd im allergic to most antibiotics and keep having dental infections with these 3 decaying teeth. And abscesses. And it’s nuts. I’ve tried getting dentist oral surgeon etc to do anything but thry mostly won’t and keep telling me they need cardiologist. Which I understand So, out of desperation, I’ve turned to my homeopath which has saved my life more than once 🫠😅🙏 and she has had me on multiple things for chronic infections and the last month she’s really helped get the one abscess down immensely (might just be scar tissue left) with a sepsis combo. Never in my life did I think homeopathy would save me from a potentially serious infection.

Whew, this is long.
But a lot had to be said.

So, some forward movement but mostly not 🙃😂 it was nice to get outside in the ambulances so much! I dyd become a bit triggered being stuck back in here after all my outings!

University of Chicago neuro in a few weeks. Then a call with my medical advocate to cardiologist soon to attempt to get some more movement and then some testing from both I’m sure.

Something I don’t speak of often bc I’m usually busy venting about my feelings and medical woes is I’m a busy mother. Yes. A bedridden mother can be busy? Quite! I’m a secretary and chef in bed and homework afficiando and medical advocate for my son who is getting into Air Force (and all the crazy testing he’s needed). And yeah…, life is rather busy with these two kiddos 🥰 which I’m grateful. I was quite too severe a few years back to tackle some of these things. It’s dicey. And messy. And pacing. And crashing. But, I’m going into quality of life territory lately as I said and kinda leaving the neverending medical drama for now.

What has allowed me to (knock on wood) mostly stop the seizures that were really becoming an issue post spring covid? And the severe state I was in afterwards? Upping my beef adrenal to 2 capsules a day after a dream and one beef thyroid capsule a day. Life changing. No cure for me but has really assisted my severity level for now 🙏

Sending love to y’all 💗


* the hotel photo is the first time I’ve stayed the night anywhere but a hospital in EIGHT years. Given the hotel was attached to a hospital 🤣
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Comments

Reading some of the things you shared reminded me of the time I finally decided to stop testing of any sorts, no specialists of any kind anymore that I would go to, no tests,......... NOTHING anymore with the exception of course of keeping my primary Dr. Just in case I get some kind of infection and need antibiotics. I told my Dr. I wouldn't be getting any kind of routine labs anymore either. Blood draws make me feel bad. I'm just done with it ALL.

The Neurologist you saw reminds me of the experience I had with the last one I saw. After that I knew I was done completely. This of course is in no way a suggestion for you or an encouragement of any sort for anyone else to do the same. Just sharing. We all have our limits and reasons.

I'm sorry you had to ONCE AGAIN be treated in such a manner.

Sending a ton of Love and Compassion your way.
 
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Reading some of the things you shared reminded me of the time I finally decided to stop testing of any sorts, no specialists of any kind anymore that I would go to, no tests,......... NOTHING anymore with the exception of course of keeping my primary Dr. Just in case I get some kind of infection and need antibiotics. I told my Dr. I wouldn't be getting any kind of routine labs anymore either. Blood draws make me feel bad. I'm just done with it ALL.

The Neurologist you saw reminds me of the experience I had with the last one I saw. After that I knew I was done completely. This of course is in no way a suggestion for you or an encouragement of any sort for anyone else to do the same. Just sharing. We all have our limits and reasons.

I'm sorry you had to ONCE AGAIN be treated in such a manner.

Sending a ton of Love and Compassion your way.
Yes Tammy, exactly. After awhile this is…redundant and like continually going back to touch a hot stove. I gave up on drs (to save my life) for sometime, as you know. There’s still a few things I want to get checked off my list but obviously, these people have no clue what to do with me.

How are you these days Tammy?

And thank you for the love, back at ya!
😊🤍✨
 
Phew sunshine what a story :eek: and well done for surviving a pretty crazy Doc. On the positive side the referral to a neuro (who is hopefully not crazy) at Chicago might get things moving in the right direction. And one other positive- the crazy Doc did not say your symptoms are psychological.
 
How are you these days Tammy?
I was relatively stable up until June when I came down with a flu bug and things went to hell in a handbasket. Quite nightmarish. It's been 3 months and I'm finally starting to come back..............although there are some parts of me that feel like things won't be the same as before the flu bug. It's strange (but not really), my spine got really messed up and is still messed up. I mean I've had chronic problems with my back for years but never like I experienced with whatever virus I caught this summer. Feels like my already messed up spine has been replaced by a more messed up one. I tell ya, the capabilities of the harm a virus can do are endless.

And the beat goes on.............
 
Phew sunshine what a story :eek: and well done for surviving a pretty crazy Doc. On the positive side the referral to a neuro (who is hopefully not crazy) at Chicago might get things moving in the right direction. And one other positive- the crazy Doc did not say your symptoms are psychological.
Haha, sorta kinda 😜🙃
And yes! Although I found the guy on my own as I’m not going back to Cleveland Clinic dude, his diagnosis’s got me into this guy. So, it wasn’t a total loss. Thanks for the encouragement 😀
 
I was relatively stable up until June when I came down with a flu bug and things went to hell in a handbasket. Quite nightmarish. It's been 3 months and I'm finally starting to come back..............although there are some parts of me that feel like things won't be the same as before the flu bug. It's strange (but not really), my spine got really messed up and is still messed up. I mean I've had chronic problems with my back for years but never like I experienced with whatever virus I caught this summer. Feels like my already messed up spine has been replaced by a more messed up one. I tell ya, the capabilities of the harm a virus can do are endless.

And the beat goes on.............
Oh Tammy I’m so sorry to hear this.
These bugs are really spiraling out of control more and more it seems with so many I know. I find it FASCINATING that viruses are behind so many diseases, this is proven time and again and we have a handful of antivirals that do s***. Like this is really as far as medicine has come? 😅😅 ok I will stahhhpppp for now ha! Please take good care of yourself. Can you rub frankincense or an herb you feel called to on your spine once a week? 🙏
 
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for teeth, you might if you can, do some oil pulling of coconut oil. multiple times a day, but do it soft and gentle because muscles. even keeping it just in mouth might be beneficial.
it can get a grip of bacteria in between teeth and maybe even deeper.
if coconut oil doesnt work, other oils and fats might work too, if no fats are tolerable, just plain water might do a bit too.

sorry to hear such a horrific story. what you describe is the exact doctory i experience in germany.
but i was surprised he actually gave you the demyelation diagnosis which is somewhat workable. its much better than psychosomatic something, which i would have expected after your first description of his doings.

but your experience with doctor clinic run is exactly as mine. i had my girlfriend back then being neuropsychologist working in a renowned university clinic in germany have call a expert clinic in a another city, directly contacted the chef of the clinic. he made promises they will do a rough diagnostic.
when i came after a bit but manageable logistics , the mentioned boss of the clinic was not in house. the next doctor their wanted to send me directly home because my patient notices where like 1cm high (which actually isnt that much).. but too much for her.. suggesting me i should go to psychosomatic clinic, without having done anything at all. not even talking to me yet.
after me becoming furious and having told them that i already was at such a clinic with no help at all. they did do some tests half heartedly.. they found something and gave me diagnosis of maybe-metabolic myopathy.. in the end it was diagnosed as progressive degenerative myopathy. which was enough diagnosis to get government paying my bills and disability "pay".


what AI has to say about re-myelation and nutrition, and below what i have to say about AI suggestion and opinion:
Omega-3 Fatty Acids: Found in fish oil, these can promote brain health and support myelin repair.


B Vitamins (especially B12): Essential for maintaining myelin integrity and nerve function. Vitamin B12 deficiency is directly linked to demyelination.


Vitamin D: Plays a role in regulating the immune system and may support myelin repair, especially in conditions like MS.


Antioxidants (Vitamin E, C): Help reduce oxidative stress, which can damage myelin.


Zinc and Copper: These trace minerals are vital for brain health and nerve function, as they support enzymes involved in myelin production.


Clemastine: An antihistamine that has shown promise in promoting remyelination in clinical trials, especially in MS.


Biotin (Vitamin B7): High-dose biotin may support nerve health and has been studied in MS for its potential remyelinating effects.


Lipoic Acid: This antioxidant has neuroprotective properties and may support myelin repair.



Fats (Lipids) Essential for Myelin Sheaths:





1. Cholesterol:


• Cholesterol makes up a large portion of the myelin sheath (about 25-30% of its total lipid content). It is essential for the stability and compactness of the myelin layers.


2. Phospholipids:


Phosphatidylcholine and phosphatidylserine are key phospholipids that form the structural basis of the myelin sheath.


• These phospholipids provide flexibility and are crucial for the formation of lipid bilayers around the nerve fibers.


3. Sphingolipids:


Sphingomyelin is an important component of the myelin sheath and plays a role in protecting axons and facilitating efficient signal transmission.


• Other sphingolipids like cerebrosides (galactocerebroside and sulfatide) also contribute to the structural integrity of myelin.


4. Glycolipids:


Galactocerebroside is the primary glycolipid in myelin. It helps maintain the structure and function of the sheath, particularly in the CNS.


5. Omega-3 and Omega-6 Fatty Acids:


DHA (Docosahexaenoic acid) and EPA (Eicosapentaenoic acid) are long-chain omega-3 fatty acids found in fish oils, which are crucial for brain health and myelin integrity.


Linoleic acid, an omega-6 fatty acid, is also essential for myelin formation, but balance is key, as excessive omega-6 can promote inflammation.

and needless to say b12, is very highly involved in myelation as well as cholesterin and phospholipids. you dont take any statins? that would impair that mechanism i can imagine.
if its MS a high dose vitamin D therapy might help according to coimbra protocoll.

maybe a course of a lot of egg yolks like 3-6 a day and a good b12 supplement might give this some improvement. maybe a bit of cod liver (oil).
the yolks bring you the phosholipids and cholesterin.. also a bit b12.

careful with narcosis, some agents can seriously deplete your remaining b12 depots.

i wonder with all of this, do you maybe have MS?
 
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Oh wow, that’s terrible what you went through over there. I’m so sorry. It’s truly nothing short of appalling, right? People cannot comprehend the level of ignorance we deal with with these illnesses. Like some of us have been so gaslighted, we haven’t even acquired the most basic testing. That’s good they finally gave you some kind of diagnosis for benefits …but still. Sigh.

I think I was a bit too gentle on my descriptions of this German neurologist 😅 although he wasn’t as aggressive as last September Dr, he was quite abrasive and did really bizarre things. For example, he would say the lesions in my 7 year old mri are not the cause for my woes 😅🫠🙃 yet, has no updated imaging and he was hyper fixated on my issues are from endometriosis and complex pain syndrome. Why? Because I later found out he specializes in complex pain syndrome and the he receives financial gain from some of the companies he works with etc. I just wanted my foot in the door at Cleveland Clinic. Because, I thought there would be a higher level of competence there.

So, he actually kept grabbing his head and saying I have a very complicated case but then would fixate on the complex pain syndrome and he told me healing was as probable as him changing his accent… very unlikely because it’s hard to undo complex pain syndrome. I would be more accepting of his diagnosis if he did any actual testing. But he didn’t, he based it all off of his opinion and feelings. Nothing factual. I’ve been told by 5 drs I have severe dysautonomia. My current cardiologist labeled it severe autonomic dysfunction. He told me he is the dysautonomia ‘whisperer’ and I have no signs if it. This was very concerning because 5 drs have said I have immense signs of it. If he’s the dysautonomia whisperer, I’m f****** I realized. He then bashed every dr I’ve had, calling their diagnoses incorrect. I mean… he was off his horse, mentally. The ego king of the neuro ward apparently. The bouncer I got to bounce cases like me into oblivion. How can you discredit other drs diagnoses when you haven’t even performed and basic testing? Then, towards end of the appointment, he said I might have some signs of dysautonomia 🙄 if my o2 is going mid 80s during movement like a car etc and my bladder is shutting down, this isn’t rocket science. So, yeah, he actually kinda gaslit me more than I relayed and was all over the board. He kept blaming me for getting this sick saying I probably thought everything was Lyme when I did not even mention it. It was eerie. That some of these physicians are so programmed to deflect and patient blame. I knew better than to go into Cleveland Clinic and start swinging the l word around. So, quite bizarre how his lack of medical knowledge made him deflect to me and have to play these bizarre games.

Keep im mind my seizures have YET to be evaluated. My family has not taken me into er for them due to their time and financial constraints, I suppose. You don’t call for 911 when I’m middle of a seizure like episode if you’ve ever had one. And you are pretty out of commission for next 8-12 hours. Anyways, just bizarre you wouldn’t as a neurologist want to explore this more. And send me to an epilepsy dr right off the bat.

I think it’s highly likely I have MANY undiagnosed medical conditions. I’ve always suspected MS and or myletis. But I’ve never fit the full symptomology of MS. My first neurologist scolded me when I asked if this was Ms in 2017 during hospitalization and told me he diagnosed it all day everyday and I don’t have it and this neurologist was of the same attitude. He said it’s not MS when I asked. That being said, o would not be surprised in the least if I collect s few diagnoses in this area along the way as Lyme can create havoc in the central nervous and neuro systems.

Thanks for for all the great tips! Clay toothpaste and coconut oil is one of my best remedies I’ve been using past few months plus homeopathy for infection and GSE. I’m constantly called to egg yolks since reintroducing. I should up them again. Whole Foods always assimilate better in me than single supplement forms.

Thanks for chiming in.
 

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