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I feel like I’ve made so many tiny leaps and bounds forward past few years. Slowly. Nothing huge… but making my existence more comfortable after non stop torture for so long. And that’s not far from the truth. Not Surprisingly, after that much suffering, the mind really starts to go into limbo. Understandably, the fight response to keep going becomes compromised at that level of every hour for years.


Things don’t feel good this week.
Let me rephrase that, things are terribly wrong. There are horrible things happening in my blood and organs and mouth etc and although I can go through potential lists and ideas here, it’s essentially pointless because I do not fit into the category of patient that can be transported to specialists.

So, that leaves me alone.
In the dark.

This isn’t new. This used to be my daily reality. But when it hits to this level, I’m reminded that this is really bad. Whatever has happened to me. Quite possibly many, many conditions at this point. Very swollen organs. Each breath hurts. Lungs. Blood having issues. Assuming hypovaelic (for a long time) but could be other things happening in my blood too. Tuesday was really bad. Almost had to call for ambulance as I couldn’t keep my oxygen much above 90 which produces many issues in my body. Even turning to my side produces terrifically awful things… when I can.

Somedays, I really feel I’m pulling through this AIDS like disease I seem to be facing. Call it Lyme. Call it CIRS. Call it whatever anymore. There are too many labels at this point.

And then yesterday and today, I’m on my knees again. I realize I might not be surviving this illness. Because how could anyone? This is honestly impossible. I can’t much look at things since 2017 as everything shakes and spins my brain. Understatement. I cant be upright for long as there are too many issues to list, one of them being my already struggling organs feel like even worse pancakes and starved of cellular something ir another. Maybe I shouldn’t be sharing this reality on a me/cfs board but on a Lyme board instead. Does it really matter at this point?

It just seems like a cruel joke Somedays.

Even if all the stars aligned and I was given a stretcher and made it to a,b,c,d and e specialists…. My liver is constantly swollen and has severe reactions and can’t properly metabolize most medicines. Found that out the hard way over and over. Let’s not forget the super awesome health insurance I have every doctor wants. Not.

I haven’t seen my nurse friend in over 2 weeks. She came today to help me bathe. Get clean sheets. And she seemed concerned the entire time. Did I feel like I wasn’t going to make it at times today? Yes. But what’s new. I try to keep distracting. Pushing onward.

I mean whatever could it be? The fact I crash every 20 seconds? And have to lay and not move while organs freak out? Can’t speak much? My abdomen is painfully distended? Eating terribly complicated. That I can’t freaking bathe myself for 5? Years now?! We will stop the list there.

I mean which could it be??

Truly can’t imagine being worried about someone like me with one foot in the grave for so many years and one foot out.

She messaged me this evening and said she was extremely concerned because my color is gone and my vitals are not stable. Well, that used to be my 24/7 reality. Not much I can do there. But lay on my side, in the dark and ponder the existence of the microbes in me. Tap into their consciousness. Escape this hell.

I’m not feeling strong this week folks.
I’m sorry. I don’t have any pleasantries to share. I do. But I don’t feel like it. Because I’m in the throes of fighting death again and I’m so tired.

So tired.

I. Am. So. Tired. Of. Doing. This. Alone. In. A. Broken. System.

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Praying for you. Life has been rough lately. I can understand some of what you're feeling.

If your nurse is concerned maybe you should considering going to the ER. Would she be able to meet you there and advocate for you a bit, do you think?

Edit: Remember that time you said some sort of iv antibiotic helped you? Maybe if you have some sort of infection you could ask for that medication again in an iv?? Hoping.
 
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Praying for you. Life has been rough lately. I can understand some of what you're feeling.

If your nurse is concerned maybe you should considering going to the ER. Would she be able to meet you there and advocate for you a bit, do you think?

Edit: Remember that time you said some sort of iv antibiotic helped you? Maybe if you have some sort of infection you could ask for that medication again in an iv?? Hoping.

Thank you Judee. 🙏

In the past I have beefed paramedics and ERs
For help in these states. Generally, nothing comes from it. Maybe a few low numbers on blood work but rarely anything to hospitalize me.

I unfortunately developed a terrible full body mast cell reaction to that antibiotic on day 11. And had to stop. Like so many antibiotics. Last June the er dr said it’s such a gamble with me at this point. Really they are saving antibiotics and steroids for me only in absolutely life threatening conditions at this point. I’ve been told over and over the hospitals don’t have much to offer me at this point. My friend that’s a nurse concurs although she won’t hesitate to call an ambulance if she thinks o2 etc could assist me.

Unfortunately chronic Lyme disease masquerades as many autoimmune conditions. Likely of which I’m dealing with more than a few right now.

I am just very tired and frustrated.
 
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Were you able to read Wayne's thread on Methylene Blue. https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/methylene-blue-the-perfect-supplement-for-me-cfs.90184/

I know that Dr Marty Ross mentions it on his site as well though he's talking about a pill here: https://www.treatlyme.net/guide/methylene-blue-for-lyme-and-bartonella

But Wayne talked about drops. Maybe you could mega dilute them to trial them and/or even try the dilute version on your skin to make sure you're not going to have a bad reaction to them. ?? Of course it will probably dye your skin blue. Be careful of getting it on anything else as it would probably stain anything.

It's supposed to help with oxygen utilization. Wayne talks about that in the first post. Maybe it could bring your saturation levels up. ???
 
Were you able to read Wayne's thread on Methylene Blue. https://forums.phoenixrising.me/threads/methylene-blue-the-perfect-supplement-for-me-cfs.90184/

I know that Dr Marty Ross mentions it on his site as well though he's talking about a pill here: https://www.treatlyme.net/guide/methylene-blue-for-lyme-and-bartonella

But Wayne talked about drops. Maybe you could mega dilute them to trial them and/or even try the dilute version on your skin to make sure you're not going to have a bad reaction to them. ?? Of course it will probably dye your skin blue. Be careful of getting it on anything else as it would probably stain anything.

It's supposed to help with oxygen utilization. Wayne talks about that in the first post. Maybe it could bring your saturation levels up. ???

Thanks Judee.
I’ve looked into it and talked to others about it but it’s pretty risky with someone that has bad mast cell activation as I do.

I cannot explain how so many well meaning medications and treatments have further permanently crashed me over the years. It no longer became something I could eventually bounce back from.

As of now, I’ve decided against trying methylene blue.

Truly, a horror land that I never knew existed.
 
"Because I’m in the throes of fighting death again and I’m so tired."

I'm so truly, deeply sorry to hear how very ill you are right now @sunshine44

Something, I don't know what, knocked me back to that place earlier this year and it was terrifying.

I really, really feel for you Sunshine.

Praying for peace over you. 🙏🏻
 
"Because I’m in the throes of fighting death again and I’m so tired."

I'm so truly, deeply sorry to hear how very ill you are right now @sunshine44

Something, I don't know what, knocked me back to that place earlier this year and it was terrifying.



I really, really feel for you Sunshine.

Praying for peace over you. 🙏🏻

Thank you zebra.

Unconditional support goes such a long way when in the trenches of this illness. Your words mean so much to my heart. I feel it.

I’m sorry about your fall earlier this year.
There really is no rhyme and or reason sometimes and it can be so traumatizing in so many ways. Hoping you are in a better place these days ♥️
 
Dearest Sunshine 💐 💖
I just read your post and feel every word you shared..
Thank u for your reaching out..

My thoughts as I read are *, oxygen.. I've thought about purchasing some for myself.. I don't know if that's poss over the Internet.. Maybe I shouldn't be saying that?

From what you've shared about the gas exposure are u feeling that your recent decline, whilst echoing what u used to go through, is responsible for what's happening to u?
If so then you have a new inhibitor to your body /lungs and so medical intervention could be of help.. Gas exposure like your area had it is big..
@Nord Wolf can u help with your experience of being poisoned here?
 
I here you sunshine... What we have is so v v waring and gruelling... But we do it together so when u are laying there please know as much as it feels alone u are most def not.. I think of u most days.. 💖
For every person who has this and is held in a failing body.. We are a tribe..
But yes just today I was thinking as I lay there I wonder how similar this is to an aids patient


You have made ' tiny leaps and bounds forward'.. It is v v true. Hold onto it

You've been exposed to a mass gas leak...

Intervention even a doc just to come and assess u may be of help
 
I here you sunshine... What we have is so v v waring and gruelling... But we do it together so when u are laying there please know as much as it feels alone u are most def not.. I think of u most days.. 💖
For every person who has this and is held in a failing body.. We are a tribe..
But yes just today I was thinking as I lay there I wonder how similar this is to an aids patient





You have made ' tiny leaps and bounds forward'.. It is v v true. Hold onto it

You've been exposed to a mass gas leak...

Intervention even a doc just to come and assess u may be of help


😭😭😭
Thank you emma
Your words lifted me 💔

I am going to look into obtaining my own supplemental o2. Even though I don’t think it’s responsible for my whole issue but I know it could certainly assist my organs in feeling less stressed when I’m these ‘states’. Multiple alternative practioners have recommended since 2018. I just never found a dr willing to help me get it.

And yes, eventually I’m sure it would be a good idea to get checked out. But unfortunately getting me to one not via tele health is ridiculously complicated and when I was stronger back in 2018 proved rather dangerous mostly and I significantly permanently declined each trip out. It was frightening how little the last specialists I saw understood about my condition and situation. Hence why I’ve only been back and forth via ambulance since 2019.

I really don’t know what’s caused this. I have a few ideas including the posssibility of what we breathed in but ultimately I’m not sure.
 
Hi sunshine x
In the UK I can get a doctor to come out to me.. Does that not happen in the states?
How about out of hours what happens if someone needs a doc..
 
I hear you on that... I've decided not to go for inpatient stay for biopsy and scan... Its just too much. Esp the preparation around my food etc it just gave me so much anxiety thinking about it all and then it ended up I wasnt well enough to go anyway.
The toll on us and as u explain the risk of permanent decline. I've heard others speak of this and making that hard decison not to go.
 
Hi sunshine x
In the UK I can get a doctor to come out to me.. Does that not happen in the states?
How about out of hours what happens if someone needs a doc..


They do exist here. But No, we (me, friends, patient advocates) tried hard to get me a physician in home for a lonnnngggg time. In short, it’s because of my health insurance I’m told.
 
I hear you on that... I've decided not to go for inpatient stay for biopsy and scan... Its just too much. Esp the preparation around my food etc it just gave me so much anxiety thinking about it all and then it ended up I wasnt well enough to go anyway.
The toll on us and as u explain the risk of permanent decline. I've heard others speak of this and making that hard decison not to go.


I’m so sorry.

Yeah, my family and friends used to pull up car in grass and like angle me in wheelchair and then move me into car in 2018 but that’s when I was much stronger. I couldn’t sit up back then for but minutes and not comfortably but it was just not a good situation and very difficult for myself, family, friends and doctors were not at all educated on a case like mine so it was very often not worth it.
 
Hello.....I don't believe we've ever messaged each other, but I want you to know that I agree 100% with Judee.

Even your nurse friend has given you the same advice. Perhaps you need antibiotics, perhaps you don't.....but your certainly sound like you need oxygen.

The young people who measure your respirations may be the best source of info. Ask them which Dr. is the most sympathetic and try to get a prescription for what you need.

I don't blame you for feeling sub-low. How do you get food? I'll pray for you also.....I'm not terribly religious, but I do believe that if anything's going to help it's that. So know that a 76 yr. old woman in TX is thinking of you and wishing you well.

It is a treacherous journey at times. Yours, Lenora
 
This is a terribly, terribly brutal illness. Love you guys ♥️

This roller coaster...its so HARD. I'm sorry things are extra difficult right now.

I'm considering where to get some oxygen, myself. Im moving to "less oxygen" next month.

(I have to move; to be with my husband again; but its all totally beyond my ability to grasp and I absolutely cannot fall apart from the move).
 
This roller coaster...its so HARD. I'm sorry things are extra difficult right now.

I'm considering where to get some oxygen, myself. Im moving to "less oxygen" next month.

(I have to move; to be with my husband again; but its all totally beyond my ability to grasp and I absolutely cannot fall apart from the move).


Oh goodness rufous, thank you.

That’s so much 😞

Sending you all the love.

I’m excited for you two to be reunited again but praying for your body through it. 🙏
 
Rufous,, perhaps it's just as well that you can't process your move. It's going to be hard enough as it is.

You had looked forward to Oaxaca before and I'm sure you'll do it again. As I told you, leaving is truly heart breaking, homesick whatever you want to call it. It takes a while to come around to your new life, but you do.

The interesting thing is that it is always the home of your children, if young enough. My husband (from England) moved a lot when he was younger. He hates not having any really close friends from different schools and the close ones are from university. He feels that he missed a lot. Me....just the opposite. We knew each other from girlhood and had the same experiences and loved it.

We never expected to spend 47 years here, but we have and it has mainly been for the sake of the girls and their friends. (Well, doctors too...but then they died.) A pay-off so to speak....they have high-school friends that they spend 4 days with each year and then college friends the following year. We know those girls and their families and it has been nice. There are many of them, so it's very special.

So, you'll settle in, but will be lonely at first. Go to everything you're invited to, I would expect you'll have more personal medical care there...and so will Michael. And the really big bonus: You'll be able to see your grandchildren grow into young women. Life passes so very fast.

We'll hope your health will hold out. If not, you'll have help in the way of your family. Just think of all those wonderful restaurants! Forests and best of all in the summer, fireflies. You'd have lots of visitors, if we felt better. Yours, Lenora
 
Hi Sunshine.....I didn't realize it was you I was writing to. I thought it was the young man in the photo.

You do sound like it's all a bit much at the moment. I agree with you.....what's in a name? Whether it Lyme (unless caught in the very early stages & treated with antibiotics), whiplash, viral.....who cares? It just is.

Yes, we can also get what is known as concierge doctors here.....but then you pay extra for them, sometimes quite a bit of money.

I've shown up in doctors' offices in my bathrobe, hair uncombed.....and no, no one even notices. Now children are treated like gold, they really are. But once you're over 18 you're expected to take care of yourself.

Even as little time as 30 years ago it was all different. Caring doctors, no interference from insurance and people were given help.

I like to think we're in a period of flux but the fact is this: We'll never be able to treat all diseases, no matter how much we try. We need more alternative medicine. We need doctors who can and will willingly come to the home....but how?

Anyway, @sunshine44, you'll always have us and I hope you know that.

I wish a little bluebird would fly through your window and stay with you. Be your friend. Bring you health. Yours, Lenora xo
 
I think a lil bluebird was with me today Lenora 🪺thanks for sending it my way 💙

Thank you zebra.
Deeply appreciated 🙏
 
This picture is called pause and it brings me solace lately 🙏
 

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