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Younger generation of psychologists cleaning up science? (Guardian article)

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  1. Simon

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    The changing face of psychology | Science | theguardian.com

    Really interesting piece about problems in psychology and life science generally, and how things are beginning to change.

    It starts of by talking about how in 1959 researcher Ted Sterling found that an implausible 97% of papers in 4 major psychology journals found positive effects. He argued that this was clear sign of publication bias:the dud results never got published - an argument that was accepted. Yet in 1995 he repeated the study and little had changed. Things, say the article, are beginning to change now:

    One example of this is on replication (which should be a keystone of scientific research)
    read the full piece
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    Esther12 Senior Member

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    I would be so pissed off if I was having to treat patients while relying on the piss poor quality of a lot of psych research, and it has surprised me that there hasn't been more anger from about the way research is spun by 'experts' from those lower down the pecking order. Good to see that there's a growing push for change within the system, and that is the impression I've been getting too.

    The tolerance for this just amazes me.
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  3. Snowdrop

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    OK I didn't read the whole piece but I did read the excerpt.
    Nice to see some potentially good news :)
    Thanks for the ray of science sunshine.
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    There is nothing new in this article, but its very nice to see it all in one place. I do think that the main critics of psychology and psychiatry today are indeed psychologists and psychiatrists. Its decades overdue, but very welcome. Its also the case that issues with poor scientific methodology, and poor science publication, are critical if science is to advance. This is not just in psychology though, nor even psychiatry. Many of these arguments apply to medical science, and especially to wanna-be science like economics.
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    The anger seems to be (mis)directed toward the patients who don't respond to treatment! The experts can't possibly be wrong so it must be the patients! :confused: (In CFS anyway. I don't think it's so bad in psychiatry in general.)
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    great find @Simon. so nice to see psychologists noticing the bad science.

    now if they would just publicly face off with the wesselys and whites of the world...
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  7. Sean

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    Have they been following CFS research?

    Well, that will be an interesting face off, seeing as one of those two gentlemen just got elected as the head of the UK psychs' union and has shown not the slightest propensity thus far to back down from his rather persistent, even obsessive, and dodgy claims.
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  8. Sean

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    Looks like they have been following CFS research!
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    leela Slow But Hopeful

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    @Graham might like to see this
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    We're used to it. We call it "The News" or alternatively, "media". ;)
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  11. biophile

    biophile Places I'd rather be.

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    Horton of the Lancet whining on radio and in print about the response to PACE and being inundated with "dozens of letters" (diddums) but meanwhile refusing to publish any corrections to errors which he allowed to be published in the first place.
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    How can you replicate psychological research 'using the same methods' if those methods are using subjective measures?

    Or am I being thick? :)
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