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"young men, sociopaths..." Trying to find that quote

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by ScottTriGuy, Jun 29, 2017.

  1. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.

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    I just saw it a few days ago but can't find it now - thanks!
     
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  2. Stewart

    Stewart Senior Member

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    It's from last year's PACE tribunal judgement - page 36, the Tribunal's summary of the Information Commissioner's cllosing submissions.

    Professor Anderson's "wild speculations" about the possibility of "young men, borderline sociopathic or psychopathic" attaching themselves to the PACE trial criticism "do him no credit"
     
  3. Carl

    Carl

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  4. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.

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    Great, thank you!
     
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  5. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    upload_2017-6-29_21-34-30.png

    I thought this was a call to arms for the final battle, and clicked on it ready to do my duty. How disappointing to find it was just @ScottTriGuy looking for a quote.

    Still, I stand ready.
     
  6. Valentijn

    Valentijn The Diabolic Logic

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    As if! It says "young" men :p

    Photographic evidence suggests otherwise :cool:
     
  7. Sing

    Sing Senior Member

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    Sounds like a typical projection. The lack of empathy and moral responsibility on one side is projected onto the other. It is "those people", not me/us. Typical device.
     
  8. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    Anyone else notice the blatent sexism in this? Even though most M.E. sufferers are female, the sociopaths and psychopaths are all assumed to be male. On what evidence? Haven't the BPS crew ever heard of the Monstrous Women of Dorset (@Countrygirl)?

    And as a male surely I have just as much right to be labelled with hysteria, pervasive refusal syndrome or Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy as any other M.E. sufferer?

    So if anyone from the BPS crew is reading this, a little less sexism in your fictitious diagnoses would be much appreciated.
     
  9. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    PLEASE @TiredSam ! :eek: Just shhsssssh!!!

    We are an underground organisation :cool:.......................well, under cover I guess...................(yeah all right..bedcover:p)

    And just for the record we are the Westcountry's Monstrous Regiment of Women and are are made up of a group of particularly bolshie women who have no intention of taking prisoners. :angel:
     
  10. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    Mum's the word ;)

    oops - sexism rearing it's ugly head again - let me rephrase that:

    parent or guardian's the word ;)
     
  11. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    You sound our kind of girl @TiredSam .

    We can give you honorary membership of the WMRW, if you would like to join us. Just bring a mattress and a couple of pillows for when we next meet up at my house as we mostly have our meetings in the horizontal. :D
     
  12. MEMum

    MEMum Senior Member

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    Think yourself very lucky Tired Sam.
    I believe my possible membership was discounted due to living in the wrong County or was it because I wasn't a teacher..., can't remember. Oh yes and I don't have ME, but other health-limiting conditions, and a daughter with ME. Or was it because I couldn't remember their group title and referred to them as Women from the Wild West/Wild Women from the West?
     
  13. TiredSam

    TiredSam The wise nematode hibernates

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    I am deeply honoured.
     
  14. Binkie4

    Binkie4 Senior Member

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    @ScottTriGuy

    Now you have sourced your quote, can you tell us what you are going to do with it?
    @TiredSam is ready and waiting. (and deeply honoured)

    Is it something to do with the march in London? Is David Tuller going to stand by Jeremy Corbyn and rip up the Conservative party manifesto? Are " young men, borderline sociopathic "......required for this?

    Am sure Jeremy would love the Wild Women from the West if they came to support.........
    But I forgot, they can only participate from a prone position. How is this to be managed?
     
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  15. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    Not a problem @Binkie4 . I will be chaining @trishrhymes @hellytheelephant @Molly98 @Invisible Woman @MeSci and @TiredSam (but he must wear his best dress!.we don't want to give a bad impression:cool:) to the railings outside no 10. They can bring their mattresses.

    Prone positions R US.
     
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    Did you not see us? down the front on our mattresses with our noise cancelling headphones and ear muffs, for Jezza's speech at Glastonbury, chanting

    "OOhh Jeremy Corbyn" with the crowd.

    In fact some of us had a go at crowd surfing on our mattresses. Great fun... but not good for vertigo.

    Glasto is on our patch after all.

    Year off next year, but we will be back with our flags and matresses 2019
     
  17. Binkie4

    Binkie4 Senior Member

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    No Glastonbury next year..........we should start a petition!

    We're good at petitions....lots of experience!
     
  18. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.

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    At first, I thought this quote...

    ...meant that these young men were just on the border of being socio or psychopaths, and that was disappointing because I was looking to recruit full-on socio and psychopaths for a wee project - don't want no half-assed 'paths because if you want something done right, get a professional.

    But then, I realized that what she was actually saying was "young men, borderline, sociopathic or psychopathic" thereby also including folks with Borderline Personality Disorder, so it would appear the socio and psychopaths may indeed be full-on!

    As for project plans, just brainstorming with Anonymous.
     
  19. MEMum

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    I'll bring sandwiches.
    My great aunt, who was an amazing person into her old age, was too young to be a suffragette, but took messages back and forth to those chained to the railings.
    Later on she lived in Hampshire, is that west enough for you....?
    (Please read previous posts before taking offence if you are new to this thread)
     
  20. Binkie4

    Binkie4 Senior Member

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    @ScotTriGuy
    Project plans sound enticing. I hope you and anonymous are progressing well now you know that full psychopaths and sociopaths are to be involved. Great interpretation.

    No halfhearted measures here. Secret plans and clever tricks I hope.

    @MEMum
    I think you definitely qualify for Glasto 2019 ( assuming our petition for 2018 isn't successful) on the basis of Hampshire being just west enough.....although we should consult the Women from the West in case their wildness becomes extreme on this issue......and on the basis that you have no doubt inherited your great aunt's rebellious streak which will be of undoubted help to us.
     

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