John, I was under the impression that we were comparing advocacy orgs and earlier in the thread comparisons had been made to the CAA and other groups. Additionally, the CAA had been criticized for not being more like the WPI when it came to XMRV and so I thought it appropriate to compare the CAA to The Best Advocacy Org ever, the WPI. Personally, Even the WPI has had a few moment where I found myself cringing and begging them to please stop trying to help. That's all. ETA: There is one other issue I have with the WPI. It has to do with the fall out from having created wildly optimistic and unreasonably high expectations which are inevitably followed by the failure to realize those expectations (if only on the original time line) and then those most likely to have believed the false promises needing to scapegoat someone or some organization.