1. Patients launch a $1.27 million crowdfunding campaign for ME/CFS gut microbiome study.
    Check out the website, Facebook and Twitter. Join in donate and spread the word!
Hyperparathyroidism: An Often Overlooked Differential Diagnosis to ME/CFS
Andrew Gladman puts hyperparathyroidism under the microscope, exploring what the disease is, how it can mimic ME/CFS in presentation and how it is treated.
Discuss the article on the Forums.

"XMRV is contamination" post on my YouTube video - care to set him straight?

Discussion in 'Action Alerts and Advocacy' started by caledonia, Apr 20, 2011.

  1. caledonia

    caledonia

    Messages:
    2,695
    Likes:
    1,290
    Cincinnati, OH, USA
    Hi,

    Somebody posted a statement that XMRV is contamination on my YouTube video - "XMRV - Are You Next?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmwQuD_0qaA

    If anyone (or several people?) would care to set him straight, feel free.

    Please respond on the video (link above), not here, and please do it in a professional manner.

    Thanks,
    Caledonia
  2. Boule de feu

    Boule de feu Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,115
    Likes:
    56
    Ottawa, Canada
    Good job! Very well done! :)
  3. asleep

    asleep Senior Member

    Messages:
    173
    Likes:
    212
    I don't have a Youtube account, but a few simple ideas you can counter with:

    1. XMRV has not been proven to be a lab contaminant. Contamination has been suggested as a possible explanation, but it has hardly been proven.

    2. The contamination theory doesn't even begin to explain most of the existing evidence. It cannot account for antibody responses, nor can it account for viral proteins, nor can it account for consistently higher positivity rates in patients than controls (under blinded conditions). It cannot account for the genetic diversity of HGRVs found in the WPI and Lo/Alter papers and their subsequent findings. It cannot explain proviral integration unless one squints really hard and stretches his/her gullibility to the breaking point. Any theory that fails to address over half of the data (and addresses the little it does pertain to in an inconsistent, patchwork manner) is not only not proven but likely dead on arrival.

    3. The poster says: "And XMRV is not a human retrovirus. Notice the other two: Hiv and Htlv both have H in? them which stands for Human." This is beyond inane. It is like suggesting that a viper is no longer dangerous if one calls it a bunny instead. It's not even an argument, it's just playing (really obvious) sleight of hand with words.

    4. The poster says: "It is still unclear what causes CFS/ME but it is not XMRV.?" This is another example of the current denialist mantra: Anything but XMRV. Apparently, everything about ME/CFS is a huge amorphous mystery, except that the denialists know with absolute certainty that XMRV is not involved. Says the denialist: Ignore the man behind the curtain!
  4. caledonia

    caledonia

    Messages:
    2,695
    Likes:
    1,290
    Cincinnati, OH, USA
    Thanks to everyone who responded. Thanks Asleep - I also made a response based on some of your suggestions.

See more popular forum discussions.

Share This Page