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Withdrawing from clonazepam/Klonopin

Discussion in 'Sleep' started by Barx, May 7, 2015.

  1. Barx

    Barx

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    In a nutshell: this drug causes more harm than good.

    2 mg a day.

    Any protocol/method to withdraw from this drug other than tapering the drug itself or stopping cold turkey ?

    I know there is a dr Cheney that advocates tapering with Tranxene and Doxepin elixir, but that single line was all I found !

    And there is the famous Ashton protocol, but I don't tolerate diazepam/valium well at all.
     
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    Sushi Moderation Resource Albuquerque

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    ahmo Senior Member

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    I was only u sing .5mg, for sleep. I found pituitary glandular an excellent replacement.
     
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    helen1 Senior Member

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    This guy has his programs for rx drug withdrawal on his website for free and I find the programs very comprehensive. I'm using the one to taper off trazadone.

    He also sells supplements but at least his programs are free and based on sound knowledge imo.

    http://www.theroadback.org/
     
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    There's no shortcut to it, you must taper off very slowly.
    If you don't tolerate diazepam well then just stick to clonazepam, i believe that clonazepam has some advantages to diazepam in CFS/ME/SEID anyway.
    To taper from clonazepam you can do the liquid titration method with water or milk. Reduction of max of 10% every 1 to 2 weeks.
    Another water titration method is daily reductions.
    If you are using 2mg (2000mcg) per day then a daily reduction of 10mcg (0.002mg) would be ok to start with, some need to go even slower like 5mcg or 2.5mcg daily reductions.
     
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    Misfit Toy Senior Member

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    I've been on klonopin for 25 years. 1 mg. is it that bad? Going off of it is so hard, I hear.
     
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    joyce.swing elmtree

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    @Barx
    I was taking 1 mg at night and some more during the day. Most days less than 2 mg. I withdrew very slowly, and not on a schedule as above. I found that I could cut down fairly quickly initially, and then began to have withdrawal symptoms and had to go very very slowly. I was on clonazepam for 13+ years. Sometimes I would continue at the same dosage for a couple months before reducing further. I eventually did get off completely. Even after I was off it I had some symptoms. I found, quite by accident that taking Zolpidem seemed to completely block the withdrawal symptoms. I do not know why - they have different mechanisms of action. I certainly would not advice use Zolpidem on a daily basis though - It is probably equally bad for the brain as clonazepam.

    I decided to get off clonazpam b/c of the mounting evidence of it having adverse effects on the brain. And I do not know of any research to support Cheney's theory. so I did decide that I wanted to opt for keeping my brain functioning as well as possible.
    Good luck
    Joyce
     
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    Thanks. I didn't expect to find a real solution.

    If only there was a good 'non-benzo' to get off it.
     
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    If anxiety was the reason you started benzodiazepines, then quite a few people have found this protocol works very well:

    Completely eliminated my severe anxiety symptoms with three supplements!

    It certainly significantly reduces anxiety; whether the protocol might mitigate the cold turkey I am not sure.
     
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    Thanks, anxiety wasn't the issue.

    Muscle relaxant and for neuropathic pain, but that's mostly not an issue anymore.

    I've noticed a line on this forum (paraphrasing) 'the protocol for withdrawing from Klonopin is by switching to Tranxene and Doxepin elixir, then tapering the Tranxene' by a Dr Cheney
    Not much else !
    Does anyone have more information, or experience with this (secret?) protocol ?
     
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    The problem with clonzepam or any of the benzos (besides the obvious addictive or habituation issues) is that they inhibit the liver's ability to detoxify pollutants, hormones, etc:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucuronidation
     

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