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Wired but Tired or that Blasted "red alert" feeling

Discussion in 'Neurological/Neuro-sensory' started by Timaca, Apr 6, 2010.

  1. dannybex

    dannybex Senior Member

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    Two or three things have finally helped me with this extreme wiredness:Adrenergize -- by Enzymedica Therapy: It's an adrenal glandular supplement, not a stimulant, just the ground up glands. It actually really helps, especially in the morning.

    Folinic (not folic) acid (Folacal by Thorne): This really helps me. I take one about 1/2 hour before bed. In the past, if I'd wake up around 4am or so to use the bathroom, I wouldn't be able to go back to sleep. But if I take another, and hold it under my tongue for a minute or so before swallowing it with a little water, I'm sound asleep within 5-10 minutes and fall into a deep sleep until my alarm goes off.

    And finally, adding a little whole organic sugar at the end of meals -- or to oatmeal or a similar complex carb 'dessert'. Also, eating less protein in the evenings.
     
  2. Cheesus

    Cheesus Senior Member

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    For me the Gupta Programme, regular meditation and proper pacing (i.e. regular periods of complete rest and much reduced time in front of screens) have gotten rid of this for me.

    I have tried all sorts of supplements but don't take any now because none of them seemed to do anything. The above is the only thing that has proven to be beneficial for me.
     
  3. dannybex

    dannybex Senior Member

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    Gupta helped me too about four years ago, but when the 'wired-ness' and anxiety gets extreme, it becomes impossible to settle down and rest, let alone get "complete rest", IHMO.

    But you're correct, that in the long run, when things settle down to some degree, it's very important to pace and get off the computer(!), and take rest breaks in order to stop the vicious cycle.
     
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    Cheesus Senior Member

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    Yes it is horrible when you're in that state. Real rest certainly eludes you. I really think meditation and diaphragmatic breathing can be of real help, as it seems to be it comes about as a result of serious sympathetic hyperactivity. Having said that, it is certainly not a short-term fix.

    Also when anxiety is extreme all the helpful methods to calm anxiety down seem to go out of the window. Very frustrating!
     
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    rosie26 Senior Member

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    It's hellish. I am thinking seriously of trying cannabis oil without the 'high" affect in it. To see if it can help calm down these heightened sensitivities a bit.
     
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  6. Timaca

    Timaca Senior Member

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    Smith~ I agree with you about the hellishness of that symptom.

    Interestingly enough, it seems to have diminished a great deal for me if I eat an elimination diet that excludes foods high in histamine (and other foods that are low histamine that are problems for me.....). You can look at my blog for a bit more info.

    I hope you can find some relief. I know it is awful. While I'm not well, I am feeling the best in the 10 years of my illness.

    Best,
     
  7. soxfan

    soxfan Senior Member

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    This is definitely still one of the worse problems for me. I didn't have this in the beginning but seemed to come on after my dad passed away almost 5 years ago now. I really believe the anxiety and stress of his illness pushed me to the limit for months and it just triggered something and now it is still going on.

    My wired/tired can happen mostly from sensory overload but not from physical overload. All my symptoms are neurological and stem from too much mental activity or stress and it can only be very minor stress but the minute I feel a little stress I can actually feel my body start pumping out the adrenaline or cortisol.

    If I have major stress even for a while I will then feel totally drained...lay down and immediately feel wired instead and unable to rest/relax. My body has totally lost the ability to do that unless I am in a major crash....at which time I seem to be able to rest but never ever sleep during the day.....

    I am still able to do a lot of physical activity with no PEM or mental fatigue....
     
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    That all sounds like too much adrenalin.
    A few other things could cause the 'racing mind, hyper alert' thing on its own.
    Have you had any investigations for POTS or low blood volume.
     
  9. Timaca

    Timaca Senior Member

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    @Leopardtail ~
    Thank you for your suggestion. I have not been checked for POTS or low blood volume. However, one thing that has happened, is the "red alert" has decreased quite a bit since being on an elimination diet. So I *think* what might be going on is it *might* be an immune response to both pathogens and foods that my body can't tolerate (and so sees as antigens).

    If interested you can read some here on my blog: You Season with Love

    Best,
     
  10. theredwire

    theredwire Anxiety is a bummer

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    I know this is an old thread but so many great comments.

    Been dealing with chronic stress and anxiety issues for about 15 years, but it probably started in childhood, I just did not recognize it. Main issue now is my brain is always hyper-aroused, electrically charged. So sleep is little and not refreshing. I feel like I have adrenal fatigue but don't think there is really anything wrong with my adrenal glands other than they are just really exhausted.

    Tired n wired has been my new norm. It's a bad feeling. I push through each day though. I exercise daily but not excessively, eat a low sugar semi paleo diet, and keep a positive attitude. Whole body detox/cleanse helps. I have hope that one day my brain will calm down enough to get 8 hours sleep and wake up refreshed.

    I quite benzo drugs a year ago and feel better doing so. They only masked the issue anyways.
    I try to be grateful, meditate, find joy in small things.
    Open to any help I can get.
    Peace.
     
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    theredwire Anxiety is a bummer

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    Just wondering how you are doing now? It's been a few years since this post.
     
  12. dannybex

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    I'm doing better in a general sense -- definitely better than 2 1/2 years ago. Got a LOT worse though before I started to get better. Folinic still helps me the most, almost have to avoid it at times or I'll oversleep. The adrenal extract from Vitacost works too.

    The only thing I would advise against is the whole sugar. It helped w/"energy", but I paid the price w/increased insulin resistance and developed serious fatty liver issues (and increased muscle wasting) that I'm now trying to remedy.

    Also am trying to taper off clonazepam...so as you know that's not exactly stress-reducing...
     
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    Any body got an quick fixes ? :(

    Suffering from this right now, glands are up and my whole body is tingling. Had this since Saturday how do I break this cycle of tired but wired and go back to feeling fatigued and brain foggy? I much prefer that to feeling wired and woozy.
     
  14. Countrygirl

    Countrygirl ME is not MUS

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    I found taking baclofen at about 8 pm gives me relief for the following day. I understand quite a few people find it helpful for ME.
     
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    dannybex Senior Member

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    And folinic definitely helps me w/sleep. Almost too much, so I have to be careful w/how much I take and when I take it.
     

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