The 12th Invest in ME Conference, Part 1
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Why we are sick by Doctor Klinghart

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS Discussion' started by gettinbetter, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    Makes sense

     
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  2. ScottTriGuy

    ScottTriGuy Stop the harm. Start the research and treatment.

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    What's 'makes sense' before I invest 52 minutes?
     
  3. trishrhymes

    trishrhymes Save PR. Sack the President of the Board.

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    I've watched the first 10 minutes. His thesis is that there is a great increase in neurological conditions being seen by doctors now compared with even 20 years ago. He puts this down to much greater exposure to chemical toxins since the second world war and epigenetic changes from this passed on to subsequent generations.

    I haven't got the concentration to watch any more tonight.
     
  4. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    What Trishrhymes said
     
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  5. Woolie

    Woolie Gone now, hope to see you all again soon somewhere

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    Not: we're living longer?
    Not: we're getting better at early diagnosis?

    Na. Those things are just so boring.

    The living longer thing is obviously huge for neurological conditions like stroke, Parkinson's, Alzheimers, etc.
     
  6. HowToEscape?

    HowToEscape? Senior Member

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    "He puts this down to much greater exposure to chemical toxins since the second world war and epigenetic changes from this passed on to subsequent generations. "

    Sounds like a grandparent trying to be cool.
     
  7. Wishful

    Wishful Senior Member

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    20 years ago lots of disorders were just ignored or denied because there were no ways to test for them.
     
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    Kina

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    Dainty Senior Member

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    I work at a place that primarily serves patients of Dr. Klinghart, by offering an MCS-friendly home-away-from-home for people to stay at. My boss is a former patient ("95% recovered") who was treated by Dr. Klinghart. She has witnessed countless healing transformations.

    I have yet to see him myself, because of finances. But I've seen enough to accept that whatever he's doing, it's working.
     
  10. trishrhymes

    trishrhymes Save PR. Sack the President of the Board.

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    That's interesting @Dainty . What treatment does he do with these patients?

    I still haven't watch the rest of the video, so if someone else can summarise what happens after the first 10 minutes, I'd be grateful.
     
  11. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    I wonder how easy it is to get into him and how much he costs?

    One of the things he mentioned near the end was the importance of ridding the body of parasites and said he had his own protocol for that. But I don't think he said what it was
     
  12. perrier

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    Perrier:We saw him twice. Useless. And out there....he insisted on doing family constellation diagnosis. Really wasted money. My impression, and I'm ready to be corrected, is that he missed his calling. He should have become a prof in the humanities, not a physician.
     
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  13. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    Oooh
    I did not expect to get that response
    Thanks for the feedback
    Are you here in the states?
     
  14. perrier

    perrier Senior Member

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    We travelled to see him in Seattle when he was with Dr Kimiai.

    Some folks like him, and are his followers. His therapy tends to be standard for everyone. He has naturopaths helping him. He really goes in for muscle testing and other energy stuff, which after all these years I find to be bunkum. When we saw him he was big time into family constellation therapy and was promoting it. He's a guru type.

    And I Need a serious intelligent physician who will look closely at a very sick daughter.
     
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  15. gettinbetter

    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    Thanks for the feedback
    We can spend so much money to get help and we come up with no solutions
    Thankfully we have this forum which is invaluable to me

    I am a little skeptical on Muscle testing
    My acupuncturist who is very good a acupuncture muscle tested me for around four or five supplements saying this was good and this was bad. I think she was wrong in about 3/4 of her recommendations
    She recommended one supplement that hyped me up for about 24 hours.
    I was pretty upset about that because I paid for it was useless to me and I really need all the sleep I can get,
     
  16. Dainty

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    trish, I'll do it when I can. All I've heard is he utilizes a wide variety of alternative approaches. His clinic has several specialists in different holistic fields and many tend to work on the same patient, which leads to several angles being tackled at once.

    I should ask about costs directly, I'll get back to you on that. I just heard it's pricey and I was like "yeah, not a current option for me."

    Though where I work is an entirely separate business, my boss is also the New Patient Coordinator for the Sophia Health Institute. All potential new patients interact with her first (by phone or email). She asks extensive questions to figure out whether what the clinic has to offer is a good fit for someone interested in coming. It's not as easy as deciding you want to see Dr. Klinghart and making an appointment. She's a super compassionate person and doesn't want anyone wasting their money on something that's unlikely to work for them.
     
  17. Hilary

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    Sound familiar anyone?
     
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    gettinbetter Senior Member

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    I think his idea that we have been exposed more to health damaging pollutants and chemicals electromagnetic radiation than we used to and that is affecting our health is obvious here in the USA city areas.
    When I was in a cleaner less urbanized environment I felt better, had more energy, slept better and was able to work more, when I went back to a city environment I felt crappy pretty quickly

    Being in a cleaner environment did not cure me but it made a significant difference
     
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    I got my ME/CFS while living in Vancouver. Moving to rural Alberta (surrounded by forest) made no noticeable difference. I don't believe that pollutants or EM radiation had a major role in developing the disorder. The modern urban environment does cause more stress on the body, but I doubt that a statistical study would show a major difference in ME/CFS rates between urban and rural dwellers.
     
  20. Alvin2

    Alvin2 If humans were rational...

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    At first i thought the thread was called "Why we are sick by Doctor Klingon" :woot:
     

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