A Little Poisoning Along the Road to ME/CFS
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  1. ahmo

    ahmo Senior Member

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    @MARGARITA COLOMBO, After using mg oil in footbaths for a year, I've switched to mg citrate in footbaths. Excellent w/o the mess of oil (which I made in 1 l quantities, always drippy mess). I had been using Mg Malate tabs initially. I still use the tabs if I wake needing extra in the night, which now is, thankfully, very infrequently. I'm taking all my powdered supps...aminos, some minerals...in footbaths, don't need any more than I would if taking orally. cheers, ahmo
     
  2. MARGARITA COLOMBO

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    thank you very much for the advice, i definitely will try your way!!!
     
  3. Gondwanaland

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    Freddd, thanks for the heads up re: slow release K. All available K supps at the drugstore are slow release types. I will have to ask my dr. for a prescription to have it compounded. I hope he agrees (he has been trusting my judgement so far). I see that you prefer the gluconate form and hope to be able to get this form from my local compounding pharmacy soon.

    Freddd, I read under antoher topic that you no longer recommend a B complex due to the increased K need.
    I already have sublingual cobamamide 3mg at home (I can split it in 4) and I picked up sublingual L-5-MTHFR 800mcg form the compounding pharmacy last Wed but misplaced it and can't find it anymore. I will have to re-order it. My brain is just full of aluminum and I still have 5 amalgams in my mouth and these factors seem to be hindering my memory improvement. I also have CoQ10 100mg (softgels by Now Foods), but will have to find out if I can order LCF locally.
    I would be very thankful if you could shed some light for my next steps. I am not very smart in biochem, but am trying to read as much as I can. I am not sure when to add the cobamamide. I would have added one quarter of the methylfolate today but had to postpone it. Instead I started 70mcg of Se-mmethionine and had good energy today despite the mildly cramping calves.
    I also tried acerola powder as an alternative vit C source, but keep getting a drop in my energy/brain fog few minutes after taking it.

    Edited to add that I am definetely not trying to loose weight and am skin and bones for being lost about which diet to follow (ended up eating high protein)...

    I am sorry for this conflicting info, Margarita. I hate it that I keep finding conflicting info for everything I decide to do.
    It is a warning for those who have Lyme. You will find it on page 5 of the following presentation:
    http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/im...ogical_treatment_of_lyme_disease_protocol.pdf

    izzy
     
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  4. MARGARITA COLOMBO

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    you are very kind, thank you so much!
     
  5. Freddd

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    'Hi Izzy,
    read under antoher topic that you no longer recommend a B complex due to the increased K need

    That is false. I suggest a low dose b-complex without CyCbl, folic acid, folinic acid or veggie folates and B1 no more than 30mg/day, B2 no more than 21mg/day and b3 no more than 100mg a day. That probably isn't a "best performance" point for you but more some amount more than that can cause insatiable needs for l-methylfolate and/or potassium.
     
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  6. Gondwanaland

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    Thanks for the clarification, Freddd!
     
  7. KimmyB

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    Hi Fred, just soaking my brain with information by reading old threads. I've been taking a slow release potassium (8mEq, 2x per day) -- but in this thread, you mentioned that the slow release stuff isn't a good idea. I was told (on another forum) that too little potassium, like the amounts in typical supplements, actually trigger the body's feedback loop in a bad way and you end up wasting potassium instead.

    I'm quite fuzzy on how you'd know you're taking to much potassium.

    And then, what is a "high dose" of B1, B2, and B3? My B-Complex (Life Extensions) has 100mg of each of those three. Is that too high?
     
  8. ahmo

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    I can't respond to the query re too little potassium. But re B vitamins, I found, as Fred found, that the doses of B Vits that you list are too much, pushed up K+ needs and for me, also lead to excess ammonia. In the past I took high doses of B1, 3, 6 especially. I would have thought my current dose useless. But it works, and when I've increased it, I've had problems. I settled on the one I'm linking below. It's essentially a 25mg B complex, activated B's. I split the caps, take 1/2 AM, 1/2 midday. This has been working great for me.

    The 2nd link in my signature is a compilation of Fred's comments, you'll find some more info there re potassium. I'm not sure re too much K+, as it's never been a problem for me. Maybe it would show up as Mg deficiency, so cramps, tension...not sure.

    https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-activated-b-complex-high-bioavailability-60-veg-caps
     

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